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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

Bumping for interest. I started a discussion similar to this last night as its difficult to plan a strategy when you don't know if forty points is a gargantuan amount or insignificant.

A lot of people from my region seem to think that six stacks will be common and points will be near the hundreds. However, personally I think the best option (as with a six stack you're pretty much guaranteed only one with a time of over a minute - feel free to contest that please), is to get the autonomous points with the robot bonus at least, or hopefully a container or tote for four to ten points, and then shoot for two stacks at least of three or four totes with a container on the top. Then, if there is time (assuming your robot is fast), try to sweep up any noodles to get a few more points and deny those points to your opponent. This of course makes little difference in the short run, but can be great in the long run.

Doing quicky math, this would get you possibly 4, 10, or 12 points in Auto, anywhere from 18 (single 3 stack) to 48 (two four stacks) in teleop, and then hopefully twenty if you do coopertition (which is important for the tiebreaker). So say with this you average somewhere around fifty points a game. The question is again though, is this a significant amount of points for an alliance (if feasible of course), or is this low?

Additionally, as a side note, since the containers are probably the greatest source of points, it would probably be a good strategy to at the least deny your opponents of as many of the four in the middle as possible, which again is beneficial in the long run.

As a somewhat relevant question also, does anyone think its feasible for an average team (meaning not sponsored by NASA) to make a bot that can make more than one six stack in the time allotted?
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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

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As a somewhat relevant question also, does anyone think its feasible for an average team (meaning not sponsored by NASA) to make a bot that can make more than one six stack in the time allotted?

I bet 1114 will make at least 2 6 stacks (they are not NASA bots)
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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

I was apparently pessimistic last year (I guessed 50, but the TBA quals average started near 80 and went up from there).

Auto will see three bots drive into the auto zone pushing recycling containers, giving us 12 points. If The Noodle Agreement is kept, there is another 40 points. Robots drag and pull gray totes around, getting a row 1 layer tall over the whole of the scoring platforms, say about 16 totes for 32 points. One robot from each side is good at some stacking and we get a coopertition set for 20 points. That stacking robot also gets a couple containers on the gray totes for another 8 points. In total, 112 points.

Edit: Looking at some of the past threads, we seemed overly optimistic around 2011 and overly pessimistic more recently (at least in the first several posts of each thread).
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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

A complete shot in the dark here: average quals match score will range 65-85.
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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

There will be a huge range of scores depending on the quality of the robots this year.

An average alliance with no super-robot will score 40-80, a good alliance in quals can score 80-120.

In competitive eliminations, the game will be won/lost by the green containers in the center.
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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

Most common score: 0-25 points

Average score: 40

Elims average: 100

Einstein quarterfinal average: 200
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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

Average Qualification Score: 60 points

Average Elimination Score: 105 points
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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

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Most common score: 0-25 points

Average score: 40

Elims average: 100

Einstein quarterfinal average: 200
this... except that I think elim average during weeks 1-2-3 will be 80
moving up to 120 in weeks 4-5-6 (Remember that many teams will be doing coopertition in quals but won't get those points in elims...)

Divisional Quarters will be 175-200 (average)
Einstein Quarters 200-250 (average)

I hope I am wrong and MANY more points will be scored...

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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

Quals Average: 100 points. Looking at Coopertition, some Auton, and a few stacks its not that hard.
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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

Not sure about week one, but I'm thinking around 150 or so at waterford's finals.
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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

80 for quals. 180 for eliminations. 300 at Einstein.

I guess I am more optimistic than most.
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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

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80 for quals. 180 for eliminations. 300 at Einstein.

I guess I am more optimistic than most.
Not really, when you consider that 80 points is simply a ROBOT SET + a 6 stack with can + noodle agreement.
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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

I think the average qualification score in Week 1 will be 30.

A strong playoffs alliance in Week 1 will score 200 points.

An extremely competitive robot will probably be able to score over 100 points by itself.
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I think the average qualification score in Week 1 will be 30.

A strong playoffs alliance in Week 1 will score 200 points.

An extremely competitive robot will probably be able to score over 100 points by itself.
If 200 is hit week 1 it happens at dallas and during a quals match with 3 of the more veteran teams. No time else.
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80 for quals. 180 for eliminations. 300 at Einstein.

I guess I am more optimistic than most.
I agree completely. I'm guessing that every team will get a robot set in auto. and have at least 2 stacks of 4 totes plus a can. Also some totes that are just pushed onto the ramp
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