YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

[pbhead]

Originally Posted by blturner

80 for quals. 180 for eliminations. 300 at Einstein.

I guess I am more optimistic than most.

Not really, when you consider that 80 points is simply a ROBOT SET + a 6 stack with can + noodle agreement.

[Abhishek R]

I think the average qualification score in Week 1 will be 30.

A strong playoffs alliance in Week 1 will score 200 points.

An extremely competitive robot will probably be able to score over 100 points by itself.

[shhrz]

For week 1:

Qualifications:
4 point Robot Set (AUTO)
6 point Tote Set (AUTO)
~60 points for TELEOP stacking
~40 points Coopertition (Yellow Totes, Noodle Agreement)

OVERALL: 110 points

Playoffs:
Scaling above, I'd say around 190 points (no Coopertition Totes)...

[wilderbuchanan]

Originally Posted by blturner

80 for quals. 180 for eliminations. 300 at Einstein.

I guess I am more optimistic than most.

I agree completely. I'm guessing that every team will get a robot set in auto. and have at least 2 stacks of 4 totes plus a can. Also some totes that are just pushed onto the ramp

[sportzkrazzy]

Originally Posted by ChrisLlama56

As a somewhat relevant question also, does anyone think its feasible for an average team (meaning not sponsored by NASA) to make a bot that can make more than one six stack in the time allotted?

What exactly is this supposed to mean? NASA sponsors a lot of teams on all skill levels. If you are talking about NASA center teams, which we are not, most of these teams have their students doing a large majority of the work I have seen it in action from our neighbors 233 The Pink Team. Being sponsored by NASA is just like be sponsored by any other company. I also know for a fact that these teams would be some of the first to drop what they are doing and give you a hand.

Just some food for thought

[JohnSchneider]

Originally Posted by Abhishek R

I think the average qualification score in Week 1 will be 30.

A strong playoffs alliance in Week 1 will score 200 points.

An extremely competitive robot will probably be able to score over 100 points by itself.

If 200 is hit week 1 it happens at dallas and during a quals match with 3 of the more veteran teams. No time else.

[c.shu]

Here are my predictions for the average scores in Week 1.

Average alliance score with The Noodle Agreement: 148
Average alliance score without TNA: 118

This is based off of one above average stacker (A), one robot capable of pushing totes onto the platform (B), and another robot that doesn't do very much besides move in autonomous (C).

Robot A's contribution to the team is 72 points

• Carries a container into the auto zone during autonomous
• Creates 3 stacks of 4 with a container on top
• Places yellow totes on step for coop (does not create a stack of 4 because I think this will be rare among most alliances)

Robot B contributes 10 points

• Pushes one container to the auto zone during autonomous
• Pushes 5 totes onto the platform for 2 points each

Robot C contributes 2 points

• Moves into their auto zone but does not bring anything with them
• Struggles to move around the field but manages to put a tote on a platform
• Pushes 10 litter into landfill

Now we do the math:

• w/ TNA: 72(A)+10(B)+2(C)+40(TNA)+20(coop)+4(Auto)=148
• w/o TNA: 72(A)+10(B)+2(C)+20(coop)+4(Auto)+10(landfill litter)=118

Attached is the excel file I created to play around with some numbers.

[MrJohnston]

Week 1 scores will be much lower than week 5 and far lower than those at Regional Championships and, of course, in St. Louis...

My guess:
Week 1 "average" breakdown" for preliminary matches.
Autonomous: 6
Three robots in auto zone will be common, bin sets and tote sets far less so.
Teleop: 25
Getting 5-10 totes into scoring position will be common. A few robots will successfully stack recycle bins.
Noodles: 15
Nearly everybody attempts to stick to "The Noodle Agreement." However, a few scoff at it as it is "not in the spirit of the game." However, many teams find that throwing noodles across the field is not as easy as they thought and noodles commonly are tossed into the landfill on both sides.
Coopertition: 10
Four yellow totes are set on the step in most matches. Stacking four is rare.

Total: 56
I would almost double this total for weeks 5/6

To win week 1: I am guessing that the winning alliance in week one will be putting up 100-150 points per game - with there being a wide discrepency from event to event. In weeks 5/6, would would expect the winning alliance to be putting up 150-200 points in a match.

[Joseph1825]

Week 1 scores (for qualification):

Auto: 1 robot set
Total Auto Score: 4
Reasoning: Every year people over estimate how much will be scored in auto. Not very many robots will be able to score more than a robot set, and there will be rounds when auto programs don't work right.

Tele-op: 3 stacks of three totes, all capped with recycling containers
Total Tele-op score: 54
Reasoning: There will be one robot that cannot lift totes and bulldozes a few unto the scoring platforms. The other two robots can stack totes and finish three stacks, one robot can lift containers and caps all three stacks.

Co-op: 1 co-op set
Total Co-op score: 20
Reasoning: at some point a robot will break off and dump 2 yellow totes on the step and then immediately go back to stacking totes.

TNA: 0
Total TNA score: 0
Reasoning: This will either get banned by FIRST or few enough people will know about it that it doesn't happen very often.

Average week 1 qualification score: 78

[cadandcookies]

Working solo the 'Snow Problem robot was able to do 30 points in 2:15. It that's a middle tier robot then I wouldn't be surprised to see up to 90 point average for quals. If it's poorer than average, we could seen an average over 120. If it's better than average I'd say somewhere around 40-60.

[MARS_James]

Originally Posted by JohnSchneider

If 200 is hit week 1 it happens at dallas and during a quals match with 3 of the more veteran teams. No time else.

You are underestimating how stacked South Florida is this year just off of the top of my head (judging from their previous years) I could see any combination of 108, 125, 179, 180, 744, 1065, 1251, and 1592 easily getting 200 points. Add in our traditional Florida Wild Cards 1523, 2152, 2383, 3242, 3410, 3932, 3992, and 4592 you get 8 more robots who could easily be in matches that get that high. So more than 1/4 of the robots in South Florida, off the top of my head, I could easily see scoring 67 points by them selves. Now I FULLY expect to eat my words once we see robots actually being built but I do think South Florida may be the strongest week 1 regional this year

[tindleroot]

If 200 is hit week 1 it happens at dallas and during a quals match with 3 of the more veteran teams. No time else.

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Average alliance score with The Noodle Agreement: 148
Average alliance score without TNA: 118

Texas conspiracy confirmed

[Tom Bottiglieri]

I predict an average of less than 1 robot per week 1 regional that can stack 3 totes in auto.

My guess for average qual score is 22.

[Anthony Galea]

I was perfect last year , so I'll go for it again.

Average Qual Score: 65

Average Elim Score: 115

[AlexD744]

Originally Posted by MARS_James

You are underestimating how stacked South Florida is this year just off of the top of my head (judging from their previous years) I could see any combination of 108, 125, 179, 180, 744, 1065, 1251, and 1592 easily getting 200 points. Add in our traditional Florida Wild Cards 1523, 2152, 2383, 3242, 3410, 3932, 3992, and 4592 you get 8 more robots who could easily be in matches that get that high. So more than 1/4 of the robots in South Florida, off the top of my head, I could easily see scoring 67 points by them selves. Now I FULLY expect to eat my words once we see robots actually being built but I do think South Florida may be the strongest week 1 regional this year

Agreed that South Florida and Dallas are the week 1's to watch.

I am expecting low low scores to be the average for week 1 though. This game is so different, and so many teams will still be working out the kinks.

Maybe 30-40 point average in quals.