Go to Post You wrote a PID control loop for your coach? Whoa. - meatmanek [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Technical > Control System
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-01-2015, 23:37
sarah_storer's Avatar
sarah_storer sarah_storer is offline
Georgia Tech RoboJackets Outreach
AKA: Sarah Storer
FRC #5332 (Toaster Tech)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Rookie Year: 2013
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 147
sarah_storer is a splendid one to beholdsarah_storer is a splendid one to beholdsarah_storer is a splendid one to beholdsarah_storer is a splendid one to beholdsarah_storer is a splendid one to beholdsarah_storer is a splendid one to beholdsarah_storer is a splendid one to behold
Vision Decisions

To me, the aspect of vision in the game doesn't seem as detrimental as in years past. What is your team doing in terms of vision?

and if vision does in fact play a key role in the game this year, do you know of any comprehensive vision how-to guides that I could look at? Our team is a vision rookie!

Thank you
__________________

TEAM 3753 BULAH BOTS ALUMNI
2012-2015: Code, pneumatics, and electrical for BULAH BOTS Team 3753
2013: Bayou Regional 1st seed alliance captain and regional winners (With 118 and 4589)
2014, 2015: Bayou Regional semi-finalist
2016-?: Mentor for TOASTER TECH Team 5332
2016: Columbus District 3rd seed alliance captain, semi-finalist; Kennesaw District 3rd seed alliance 1st pick, semi-finalist; Peachtree District State Championship 4th seed alliance captain, quarter-finalist, Industrial Design Award, World Championship qualification
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-01-2015, 23:55
Dawg2T4's Avatar
Dawg2T4 Dawg2T4 is offline
Registered User
AKA: Chandler Douglas
FRC #3556 (GET SMART)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Lake City, Fl.
Posts: 31
Dawg2T4 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Vision Decisions

Don't know much I could tell you in terms of how to use vision right now, but remember: some people will be scoring totes 4-6 high, and when that happens you are making a wall that you can't see through and your bot may have to go behind.
__________________
- Chander, star of Frisbeez in the Trap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bM_Sv3xJ54
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-01-2015, 02:58
sarah_storer's Avatar
sarah_storer sarah_storer is offline
Georgia Tech RoboJackets Outreach
AKA: Sarah Storer
FRC #5332 (Toaster Tech)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Rookie Year: 2013
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 147
sarah_storer is a splendid one to beholdsarah_storer is a splendid one to beholdsarah_storer is a splendid one to beholdsarah_storer is a splendid one to beholdsarah_storer is a splendid one to beholdsarah_storer is a splendid one to beholdsarah_storer is a splendid one to behold
Re: Vision Decisions

True, I didn't think of having to go behind stacks of totes.

As for autonomous, how key do you think vision will be in the competition?
__________________

TEAM 3753 BULAH BOTS ALUMNI
2012-2015: Code, pneumatics, and electrical for BULAH BOTS Team 3753
2013: Bayou Regional 1st seed alliance captain and regional winners (With 118 and 4589)
2014, 2015: Bayou Regional semi-finalist
2016-?: Mentor for TOASTER TECH Team 5332
2016: Columbus District 3rd seed alliance captain, semi-finalist; Kennesaw District 3rd seed alliance 1st pick, semi-finalist; Peachtree District State Championship 4th seed alliance captain, quarter-finalist, Industrial Design Award, World Championship qualification
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-01-2015, 08:11
TylerStaudigel's Avatar
TylerStaudigel TylerStaudigel is offline
Registered User
FRC #0144 (R.O.C.K)
Team Role: Programmer
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Rookie Year: 2014
Location: United States
Posts: 39
TylerStaudigel is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Vision Decisions

Quote:
Originally Posted by sarah_storer View Post
True, I didn't think of having to go behind stacks of totes.

As for autonomous, how key do you think vision will be in the competition?
I believe that in auton it will only be useful for tracking the creates when attempting to stack them. Besides that I can't think of it being useful for much except in tele-op when your robot goes behind a stack of crates. Then the camera could be useful. Best of luck with it though. The example for labview is already broken.
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-01-2015, 10:26
Greg McKaskle Greg McKaskle is offline
Registered User
FRC #2468 (Team NI & Appreciate)
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 4,750
Greg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Vision Decisions

The issue with the LV examples is that the initial path location doesn't point to the Sample Images folder, but points to a subfolder. Please delete the last two path segments before running, or change the folder to point to other images first.

It should also work fine with a camera, which was how most of the testing was done. Please post if you have questions or find other issues.

Greg McKaskle
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-01-2015, 15:59
F22Rapture's Avatar
F22Rapture F22Rapture is offline
College Student, Mentor
AKA: Daniel A
FRC #3737 (4H Rotoraptors)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Rookie Year: 2012
Location: Goldsboro, NC
Posts: 476
F22Rapture has a brilliant futureF22Rapture has a brilliant futureF22Rapture has a brilliant futureF22Rapture has a brilliant futureF22Rapture has a brilliant futureF22Rapture has a brilliant futureF22Rapture has a brilliant futureF22Rapture has a brilliant futureF22Rapture has a brilliant futureF22Rapture has a brilliant futureF22Rapture has a brilliant future
Re: Vision Decisions

Detecting the vision targets is very easy, doing something with that information rather hard. I usually recommend that it's the very last thing to worry about, since actually doing anything with requires all the code to be able to maneuver and stack properly in the first place.
__________________
Research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I’m doing.
- Wernher von Braun
Attending: Raleigh NC Regional
Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-01-2015, 22:43
billbo911's Avatar
billbo911 billbo911 is offline
I prefer you give a perfect effort.
AKA: That's "Mr. Bill"
FRC #2073 (EagleForce)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Elk Grove, Ca.
Posts: 2,355
billbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Vision Decisions

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg McKaskle View Post
The issue with the LV examples is that the initial path location doesn't point to the Sample Images folder, but points to a subfolder. Please delete the last two path segments before running, or change the folder to point to other images first.

It should also work fine with a camera, which was how most of the testing was done. Please post if you have questions or find other issues.

Greg McKaskle
I tried running this just for fun using my spare MS HD-3000. The error message about missing file(s) still continues to pop up. So, when you say,
Quote:
Please delete the last two path segments before running, or change the folder to point to other images first.
, exactly where is this edit/deletion supposed to take place?
Sorry, my basic approach to doing this modification didn't yield any results.
__________________
CalGames 2009 Autonomous Champion Award winner
Sacramento 2010 Creativity in Design winner, Sacramento 2010 Quarter finalist
2011 Sacramento Finalist, 2011 Madtown Engineering Inspiration Award.
2012 Sacramento Semi-Finals, 2012 Sacramento Innovation in Control Award, 2012 SVR Judges Award.
2012 CalGames Autonomous Challenge Award winner ($$$).
2014 2X Rockwell Automation: Innovation in Control Award (CVR and SAC). Curie Division Gracious Professionalism Award.
2014 Capital City Classic Winner AND Runner Up. Madtown Throwdown: Runner up.
2015 Innovation in Control Award, Sacramento.
2016 Chezy Champs Finalist, 2016 MTTD Finalist
Reply With Quote
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-01-2015, 00:42
billbo911's Avatar
billbo911 billbo911 is offline
I prefer you give a perfect effort.
AKA: That's "Mr. Bill"
FRC #2073 (EagleForce)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Elk Grove, Ca.
Posts: 2,355
billbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Vision Decisions

Quote:
Originally Posted by billbo911 View Post
....
, exactly where is this edit/deletion supposed to take place?
Sorry, my basic approach to doing this modification didn't yield any results.
OK, I answered my own question.

Open the example project. Launch any one of the three example vi's. On the Files tab, browse to the folder that actually has the sample images.

Now you can RUN it with either a sample image, or a web cam.
__________________
CalGames 2009 Autonomous Champion Award winner
Sacramento 2010 Creativity in Design winner, Sacramento 2010 Quarter finalist
2011 Sacramento Finalist, 2011 Madtown Engineering Inspiration Award.
2012 Sacramento Semi-Finals, 2012 Sacramento Innovation in Control Award, 2012 SVR Judges Award.
2012 CalGames Autonomous Challenge Award winner ($$$).
2014 2X Rockwell Automation: Innovation in Control Award (CVR and SAC). Curie Division Gracious Professionalism Award.
2014 Capital City Classic Winner AND Runner Up. Madtown Throwdown: Runner up.
2015 Innovation in Control Award, Sacramento.
2016 Chezy Champs Finalist, 2016 MTTD Finalist

Last edited by billbo911 : 06-01-2015 at 09:41.
Reply With Quote
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-01-2015, 07:40
Greg McKaskle Greg McKaskle is offline
Registered User
FRC #2468 (Team NI & Appreciate)
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 4,750
Greg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Vision Decisions

You got it. There were initially way more photos when the example was written. At the last minute, the photos were simplified and the path didn't get updated. So either select the path text and delete the last two directory names, or use the button to browse to the example photos location.

Greg McKaskle
Reply With Quote
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-01-2015, 09:20
TylerStaudigel's Avatar
TylerStaudigel TylerStaudigel is offline
Registered User
FRC #0144 (R.O.C.K)
Team Role: Programmer
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Rookie Year: 2014
Location: United States
Posts: 39
TylerStaudigel is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Vision Decisions

Quote:
Originally Posted by billbo911 View Post
OK, I answered my own question.

Open the example project. Launch any one of the three example vi's. On the Files tab, brows to the folder that actually has the sample images.

Now you can RUN it with either a sample image, or a web cam.
Once you get to that folder what do you do. Delete it or repair the pathway?
Reply With Quote
  #11   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-01-2015, 09:49
billbo911's Avatar
billbo911 billbo911 is offline
I prefer you give a perfect effort.
AKA: That's "Mr. Bill"
FRC #2073 (EagleForce)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Elk Grove, Ca.
Posts: 2,355
billbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond reputebillbo911 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Vision Decisions

Quote:
Originally Posted by TylerStaudigel View Post
Once you get to that folder what do you do. Delete it or repair the pathway?
Once you browse to the folder, in my case it was,
Quote:
C:\Program Files (x86)\National Instruments\LabVIEW 2014\examples\FRC\roboRIO\Vision\2015 Vision Example\Sample Images
then just click Select Folder. That's it.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Sample Images Path.jpg
Views:	10
Size:	212.4 KB
ID:	17754  
__________________
CalGames 2009 Autonomous Champion Award winner
Sacramento 2010 Creativity in Design winner, Sacramento 2010 Quarter finalist
2011 Sacramento Finalist, 2011 Madtown Engineering Inspiration Award.
2012 Sacramento Semi-Finals, 2012 Sacramento Innovation in Control Award, 2012 SVR Judges Award.
2012 CalGames Autonomous Challenge Award winner ($$$).
2014 2X Rockwell Automation: Innovation in Control Award (CVR and SAC). Curie Division Gracious Professionalism Award.
2014 Capital City Classic Winner AND Runner Up. Madtown Throwdown: Runner up.
2015 Innovation in Control Award, Sacramento.
2016 Chezy Champs Finalist, 2016 MTTD Finalist
Reply With Quote
  #12   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-01-2015, 10:03
TylerStaudigel's Avatar
TylerStaudigel TylerStaudigel is offline
Registered User
FRC #0144 (R.O.C.K)
Team Role: Programmer
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Rookie Year: 2014
Location: United States
Posts: 39
TylerStaudigel is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Vision Decisions

Quote:
Originally Posted by billbo911 View Post
Once you browse to the folder, in my case it was,

then just click Select Folder. That's it.
I think I get it now. I'll try it later today. Thanks for the help!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 20:07.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi