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Re: [Team Update] 2015-01-06 The Noodle Agreement

I will state the problem much clearer I guess.

"Figure 3-6: LITTER within the ARENA at the end of a MATCH" (Notice ARENA).

"C. as UNPROCESSED LITTER on either the Red or Blue side of the FIELD."

"Finally, LITTER F remains in the Bin and does not score as an UNPROCESSED LITTER Bonus as it is not on the FIELD."

Look again at Figure 3-6 please. That exception of "F" does not even deal with the Human player Stations in the A~F examples, or any litter that transitions out of the Litter Bin, or in posession of the 4~6 Human Players that may be handling them when the game ends....Then What? Do they show it to the Refs, walk it back to the bin, eat it, drop it, hide it, there is no way they can possibly pocket it...Though there will be at least 1 that tries without a doubt. (Tying it in a knot and wearing it for a hat is a Violation:FOUL, according to G16-H & B. "H. tying", & Blue Box..."B. humans or ROBOTS tying or weaving LITTER into a knot").

(It needs just a bit more clarification and explaining is all, to be able to show and help train & teach human player students). You are assuming that the "F exception" applies. I will just say that the word "ARENA" as stated in the Figure 3-6 title, and "LITTER F remains in the Bin" & "is not on the FIELD" conflict a bit to assume anything at all. (That only refers to Litter remaining in the Bin). Once removed by Human Player Hands, it can not possibly "remain in the Bin."

Litter in the hands of human players is not even discussed...Period. (Except how it may be entered onto the field or not using the Litter Chute...But, not how said Litter "would be scored if taken from the Bin", and never entered onto the FIELD, and there is only 1 way to introduce LITTER....By Human hands, thrown over the Alliance wall during Teleop (all but the last 20 seconds of a Match), or through the Litter Chute in each Human Station during the entire period of Teleop).

There will be matches where Human Players still posess LITTER at the ending buzzer without a doubt in my mind, some still in the act of entering it onto the field without a doubt.

Now go to THE ARENA and THE FIELD Sections please, and look at BOTH OF THE Figures associated with each Section please.

THE ARENA encompasses all of the Red & Blue carpeted area and the Step, both inside & outside of the Field (where the Human stations are located...outside the field), but inside the Arena, which includes ALL GAME ELEMENTS.

I only question if the rules don't deal, or are not specific enough with an aspect to fully understand. I assume nothing if I can avoid it.
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