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View Poll Results: Do you think future FRC games will be played with the alliances separated?
Yes 13 5.33%
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Re: A New Age of FRC?

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2. They are using colored carpet to separate the two sides, and FIRST wouldn't order a lot of new carpet for only one year right?
They used green colored carpet in 2010 and that hasn't been reused.
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Re: A New Age of FRC?

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After the reaction to this year's game... I think we can expect to see some defense next year again.
Last year's game, IMO had a worse reaction (or, at least a negative reaction that seemed to make more sense).

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1. FIRST re-structured the manual, it is organized very differently from previous manuals and might be a template for future manuals

2. They are using colored carpet to separate the two sides, and FIRST wouldn't order a lot of new carpet for only one year right?

3. Bumpers, or lack there of. I feel like they also wouldn't change this for just one year, and the new team number display cards seem like a permanent change.
1. That's just a simple, nice, reorganizational thing that probably was going to happen anyway. Especially now that they got rid of the ugly web-reader that created the ugly PDF.

2. Carpets are handled, usually, by the individual event.

3. Display cards aren't necessarily a thing, just as long as SOMEWHERE you have the numbers visible in that form. It's definitely not out of the question for bumpers to be back.
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Re: A New Age of FRC?

They didn't re-use the carpet from 2009 in future years....
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Re: A New Age of FRC?

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They used green colored carpet in 2010 and that hasn't been reused.
And tan carpet in 2012 hasn't made another appearance.
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Re: A New Age of FRC?

Did somebody say Regolith?
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Re: A New Age of FRC?

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw another game that had separated alliances, but I don't think it's indicative of any greater change in FIRST-- other than a more visible statement that FIRST really isn't held to some sort of game template, and that rules can and do change.
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Re: A New Age of FRC?

This game is both a thinking game of play strategy, & a robot design challenge that can be very deep (it isn't just simply building stacks and walls)....People need to give it a chance...It will be much more exciting than you possibly think, and definitely a large challenge on field and off. Even more so, since "The Litter Dilemma" has been officially cured. (See todays 1-9-2014 updates).

Just give it a decent chance, as it was never intended to be "Battle Bots," and will be far from grown up FLL. (From 1 who taped enough carpet during 1 single regional event last year, to simply last a lifetime, those ultra-pushing matches and fully open field, aren't really all they seem to me cracked up to be from a gameplay/fan/schedule flow aspect). The field prep required between matches, delays you playing the game faster.
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Did anyone else notice the yellow banana's on the "Official Arena/Field Drawings?" (They are spread all over the field from 1 end to the other and must be cookies planted as watermarks....Or, were/will be left to help feed the field building/teardown volunteer crew, and keep them from cramping up later those nights).
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Did anyone else notice the yellow banana's on the "Official Arena/Field Drawings?" (They are spread all over the field from 1 end to the other and must be cookies planted as watermarks....Or, were/will be left to help feed the field building/teardown volunteer crew, and keep them from cramping up later those nights).
Actually, official parts on the Field Assembly Drawing (FE-00038)

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Item___Part Number___Qty___Description
1_______BANANA______6___Banana for Scale
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Re: A New Age of FRC?

Overall I believe that FIRST wanted to create a new game to fend off the criticism they got last year. In future years I see a middle ground between defense and offense being incorporated in the game.
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Re: A New Age of FRC?

So with the recent rules update does this thread just die .... Everything is back to being fine!
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Re: A New Age of FRC?

I wouldn't be surprised to see them separated again, but I think they would be interacting more, and not just with coopertition.
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