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Re: Stacking vs Capping vs ???
One thing that makes this game interesting is that you are going to have to approach the game a little differently each match, depending on the capabilities of your allies. The real trick is for alliances to figure out how to maximize points and not overlapping abilities.
It will be important to figure out which robot/s can quickly stack totes and bins at the feeder station so that the third can claim the recycling containers on the step. Or, better, if a single robot is able to make three stacks at the feeder station (with recycling containers, of course!), it would make sense to send both of the other two to the step immediately - even if they are able to, as individual bots, stack more quickly from the feeder. How many points should the alliance try to score during autonomous? It might be worthwhile for an alliance to forfeit some autonomous points so as to get a jump on the recycling bins on the step... This might depend not just on your alliance, but on the capabilities of the opposing alliance.. Is the other alliance capable of participating in coopertition? If so, will it be worth the effort to do it? Etc. I just see so many variables that I do not believe that any full strategy can be worked out before truly sitting down and assessing the capabilities of all the robots on the field... I also think we will see a lot of math being done as robots are waiting in line to get onto the field... |
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Seems to me this is the most understated strategy. There is no need to raise to over 6' if you start building a STACK by bottom stacking with a CONTAINER already on the first TOTE. The practicality of this strategy may change in competition, but it seems that most of the Ri3D didn't have too much trouble.
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Looking at this from an eliminations standpoint, only two robots should need the feeder station at any given time with maybe one overlap. If you have one robot stacking stacks of three or four on the ramp, one robot collecting recycle containers and placing them on the three high stacks, and one robot stacking a three high with a container onto another three high. Your quickest stacker does the stacks of three, your best manipulator does the final stacking, and the last robot does as many containers as you can. Three unique roles. Although they are lifting just the same for the totes, it is different enough to that at any median level regional atleast two of the roles wouldn't be interchangable, of course this would change at champs, but for the most part there are three independent roles, and that's with ignoring the noodles.
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I can see that but having a robot built for bins and noodles is low scoring due to the fact that you need to put it on one tote. A noodle and a bin on nothing is worth nothing and I dunno if it counts as unproccessed litter now that I think about it...
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I guarantee you there will be at least one robot that has a failed tote manipulator and must rely on capping stacks. yes this puts pressure on the other two robots on the alliance to be able move totes but chances are pretty good that at least 1 of the 3 robots on an alliance can create stacks. That is part of the challenge of FRC, how do you design your robot to succeed without relying too much on your partners? To succeed in qualifications you usually need to be able to do everything in case your partners don't show up for a match. But once you reach eliminations you tend to get picked on your skill in one particular area.
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2013 was disks and climbing 2012 was baskets and balancing 2011 was tubes and minibots This year we have totes, bins and noodles that are worth different amounts in different arrangements. If the GDC had given us another way to score (different game piece or end game) then the game would get too complicated. |
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Anyway what I am hearing is there is stacking and capping. Correct me if I'm wrong of course Last edited by IronicDeadBird : 15-01-2015 at 13:02. |
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A noodle in a bin is worth the same 6 in the landfill or 3 stacked totes. Depending on an alliances capabilities it might make more sense to move 6 noodles into the landfill or stack 3 totes. But a noodle in a bin on top of a stack is the most effective use of the noodle.
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