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Re: Stacking vs Capping vs ???

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That's assuming all actions take equal amounts of time.
Well like I said it depends on an alliances capabilities but looking strictly at the points awarded to number of game pieces used the noodle in the bin is the best way to go. Especially since the highest level of play will see noodles in stacked bins. However if there is 5 seconds left in the match and you have no chance of getting in a noodle in a bin, by all means get the noodle on the other side of the field or get it in the landfill.
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Re: Stacking vs Capping vs ???

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However if there is 5 seconds left in the match and you have no chance of getting in a noodle in a bin, by all means get the noodle on the other side of the field or get it in the landfill.
How are you going to get a litter onto the other side of the field or into the landfill with 5 seconds left in the match?
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How are you going to get a litter onto the other side of the field or into the landfill with 5 seconds left in the match?
Throw it over the alliance wall.
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Re: Stacking vs Capping vs ???

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How are you going to get a litter onto the other side of the field or into the landfill with 5 seconds left in the match?
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Throw it over the alliance wall.
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Good point. I forgot about the last 20 seconds.
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Re: Stacking vs Capping vs ???

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Good point. I forgot about the last 20 seconds.
As did I xD
However getting a piece of litter into the landfill with 5 seconds remaining is slightly more legal.
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Re: Stacking vs Capping vs ???

I believe that the strongest alliances will have two robots that can stack 6 totes tall. Of those two, one will get totes from the feeder station while the other collects from the field. The third robot will get as many recycling bins from the center as it can, fill them with litter, and then top off the already made stacks.
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Re: Stacking vs Capping vs ???

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I believe that the strongest alliances will have two robots that can stack 6 totes tall. Of those two, one will get totes from the feeder station while the other collects from the field. The third robot will get as many recycling bins from the center as it can, fill them with litter, and then top off the already made stacks.
The top of a stack of 6 totes on the scoring platform is just over 6'2" off the floor. The top of the manipulator is only allowed to reach 6'6" tall. Do you really think that we'll see robots that can securely grip a recycling bin using no more than the bottom 3" of it and then put it on top of these stacks without tipping?

It's physically possible, but seems unlikely to me, and the failure modes are bad. I think bottom-stacking* is the only way we're likely to see max height stacks with bins on top.

*EDIT: or stacking a stack-with-bin on top of a stack-without-bin.

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Re: Stacking vs Capping vs ???

I'm pretty sure at this point that making it into eliminations will be done independent of alliance partners. The robots that have the highest average score (the "winners") will be those that can score totes and bins both, independently, and quickly. The winners of eliminations will be the team that gets the bins from the step the quickest.

This is a very challenging game. Well played, GDC.
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What does that even say???
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Re: Stacking vs Capping vs ???

In reverse.
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Kevin Sheridam is some troll trying to be like Kevin Sheridan.
That totally fooled me. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Re: Stacking vs Capping vs ???

we have a mechanism that will securely grip a container in the last 4 inches and is not likely to let go.
We will see but the wooden prototype worked well, the aluminum one should work better.
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Re: Stacking vs Capping vs ???

No one here is talking about a robot that can stack totes and deliver stacks to the scoring zone at the same time. The rules allow such a robot this year.
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Re: Stacking vs Capping vs ???

We have a rookie team this year & do not have the typical rookie defense option in this game, so we decided that the recycle containers were not our goal, but stacking & moving totes totes or removing litter would be our best bet. I have seen some interesting mechanisms on social media & look forward to seeing what others come up with!
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