Stacking vs Capping vs ???

[IronicDeadBird]

Originally Posted by wesbass23

A noodle in a bin is worth the same 6 in the landfill or 3 stacked totes. Depending on an alliances capabilities it might make more sense to move 6 noodles into the landfill or stack 3 totes. But a noodle in a bin on top of a stack is the most effective use of the noodle.

That's assuming all actions take equal amounts of time.

[wesbass23]

Originally Posted by IronicDeadBird

That's assuming all actions take equal amounts of time.

Well like I said it depends on an alliances capabilities but looking strictly at the points awarded to number of game pieces used the noodle in the bin is the best way to go. Especially since the highest level of play will see noodles in stacked bins. However if there is 5 seconds left in the match and you have no chance of getting in a noodle in a bin, by all means get the noodle on the other side of the field or get it in the landfill.

[Caleb Sykes]

Originally Posted by wesbass23

However if there is 5 seconds left in the match and you have no chance of getting in a noodle in a bin, by all means get the noodle on the other side of the field or get it in the landfill.

How are you going to get a litter onto the other side of the field or into the landfill with 5 seconds left in the match?

[notmattlythgoe]

Originally Posted by Caleb Sykes

How are you going to get a litter onto the other side of the field or into the landfill with 5 seconds left in the match?

Throw it over the alliance wall.

[Kevin Sheridan]

Originally Posted by Caleb Sykes

How are you going to get a litter onto the other side of the field or into the landfill with 5 seconds left in the match?

Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe

Throw it over the alliance wall.

G33
LITTER may be introduced onto the FIELD only during TELEOP and only in the following ways:
A. through the LITTER CHUTE, or
B. over the ALLIANCE WALL prior to the last twenty (20) seconds of the MATCH.
VIOLATION: FOUL per LITTER.

[notmattlythgoe]

Originally Posted by Kevin Sheridan

G33
LITTER may be introduced onto the FIELD only during TELEOP and only in the following ways:
A. through the LITTER CHUTE, or
B. over the ALLIANCE WALL prior to the last twenty (20) seconds of the MATCH.
VIOLATION: FOUL per LITTER.

Good point. I forgot about the last 20 seconds.

[wesbass23]

Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe

Good point. I forgot about the last 20 seconds.

As did I xD
However getting a piece of litter into the landfill with 5 seconds remaining is slightly more legal.

[Owen Busler]

I believe that the strongest alliances will have two robots that can stack 6 totes tall. Of those two, one will get totes from the feeder station while the other collects from the field. The third robot will get as many recycling bins from the center as it can, fill them with litter, and then top off the already made stacks.

[BethMo]

Originally Posted by Owen Busler

I believe that the strongest alliances will have two robots that can stack 6 totes tall. Of those two, one will get totes from the feeder station while the other collects from the field. The third robot will get as many recycling bins from the center as it can, fill them with litter, and then top off the already made stacks.

The top of a stack of 6 totes on the scoring platform is just over 6'2" off the floor. The top of the manipulator is only allowed to reach 6'6" tall. Do you really think that we'll see robots that can securely grip a recycling bin using no more than the bottom 3" of it and then put it on top of these stacks without tipping?

It's physically possible, but seems unlikely to me, and the failure modes are bad. I think bottom-stacking* is the only way we're likely to see max height stacks with bins on top.

*EDIT: or stacking a stack-with-bin on top of a stack-without-bin.

[mrnoble]

I'm pretty sure at this point that making it into eliminations will be done independent of alliance partners. The robots that have the highest average score (the "winners") will be those that can score totes and bins both, independently, and quickly. The winners of eliminations will be the team that gets the bins from the step the quickest.

This is a very challenging game. Well played, GDC.

[Gweiss96]

Originally Posted by Dief Chelphi

What does that even say???

Kevin Sheridam is some troll trying to be like Kevin Sheridan.

[mrnoble]

In reverse.

[asid61]

Originally Posted by Gweiss96

Kevin Sheridam is some troll trying to be like Kevin Sheridan.

That totally fooled me. Thanks for pointing that out.

[Bruceb]

we have a mechanism that will securely grip a container in the last 4 inches and is not likely to let go.
We will see but the wooden prototype worked well, the aluminum one should work better.

[Random42]

No one here is talking about a robot that can stack totes and deliver stacks to the scoring zone at the same time. The rules allow such a robot this year.