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Foul Language hidden in programming code

Now, as a grown adult, I hear or read swear words from time to time. But it is very unprofessional to see these kinda things in the programming in WPI Library. Has anyone else seen any obscenities hidden in the comments?
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Re: Foul Language hidden in programming code

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Now, as a grown adult, I hear or read swear words from time to time. But it is very unprofessional to see these kinda things in the programming in WPI Library. Has anyone else seen any obscenities hidden in the comments?
Funny enough...or not. I did see that....today.
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Re: Foul Language hidden in programming code

I wouldn't have expected anything really bad to be in WPILib. Though in industry I have seen some pretty foul stuff in comments, heh.
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Re: Foul Language hidden in programming code

I have also....none that I will say in forums. It is disdainful.
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Re: Foul Language hidden in programming code

This amuses me, but it does seem rather unprofessional in the context. I want to ask our electrical people out of curiosity.
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Re: Foul Language hidden in programming code

Does the new Java/C++ update fix that? Or did it only add to the problem? I haven't checked yet...
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Re: Foul Language hidden in programming code

Somebody posted this on r/frc a few days ago. Yeah that's pretty bad to have in code that gets released for high schoolers to use.
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Does the new Java/C++ update fix that? Or did it only add to the problem? I haven't checked yet...
I sure hope they didn't do a new release just to change that.
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I sure hope they didn't do a new release just to change that.
I doubt it. There were some functional updates also.

You can see the changes if you click the link. I'm on mobile so I can't provide the link, but if you read Friday's team update, it has a link.
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I wouldn't have expected anything really bad to be in WPILib. Though in industry I have seen some pretty foul stuff in comments, heh.
Example in MS Word source code: http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/c...d_word/cgblbbw

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Somebody posted this on r/frc a few days ago. Yeah that's pretty bad to have in code that gets released for high schoolers to use.
It is absolutely unprofessional, but not any more worse that high schoolers are using it. By this age, everyone knows those words.

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It is absolutely unprofessional, but not any more worse that high schoolers are using it. By this age, everyone knows those words.
I've worked in plenty of places where foul langauge was every other word.
Still in schools we have anti-bullying and other rules to hopefully make things more civilized in the future.

So let's realistically tolerate that the bar is as low as it is but strive to raise it.
I really do not trust that someone younger than high school age will never see this.

Can someone at FIRST make a formal request to WPI to clean this up in future updates?
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Re: Foul Language hidden in programming code

Yeah, it's not professional, it shouldn't be there, all that's true. But come on, these are teenagers. They're not going to have their moral values corrupted, they're not going to become dropout lowlifes if they read a few bad words that they've already been using themselves for years.
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Yeah, it's not professional, it shouldn't be there, all that's true. But come on, these are teenagers. They're not going to have their moral values corrupted, they're not going to become dropout lowlifes if they read a few bad words that they've already been using themselves for years.
The thing is, we're creating a culture shift. These engineers, fabricators, programmers - we're setting them up to be role models.
Blatantly public unprofessionalism is inappropriate and should not be tolerated.

Yes, the real world is like that. Let's operate on a higher plane.
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Re: Foul Language hidden in programming code

Just a general statement from me:

Fixing it is removing the foul language to me.
Getting someone dismissed or messing with their career does not seem necessary.

We want to shift the culture and that's hard to do when people fear you because it makes them not trust you.
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Re: Foul Language hidden in programming code

Stuff happens. They removed it. Move on.
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