pic: Good use of a old cRio

[ratdude747]

When those came out jaws were dropping... you laugh at them now... but back then they were revolutionary compared to the old IFI controllers of yesteryear.

[calvinpanho]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

Last year's NI LabVIEW for FRC still creates programs; it does not expire. The driver station still works. We're using one of the 8-slot cRIOs for a mecanum testbed.

The 4-slot cRIOs are currently supported with this year's LabVIEW.

the Windriver(C++) license it's almost over, do you know if the new software (eclipse) is capable of programming cRio?

[tStano]

Originally Posted by calvinpanho

the Windriver(C++) license it's almost over, do you know if the new software (eclipse) is capable of programming cRio?

I do not know, i doubt it though.

I do know that the old java tools still work just fine, but netbeans is free software, so that kind of explains Java.

[chmconkling]

Originally Posted by calvinpanho

the Windriver(C++) license it's almost over, do you know if the new software (eclipse) is capable of programming cRio?

Yes and WPI and FIRST Technical Resources says to install eclipse

[calvinpanho]

Originally Posted by chmconkling

Yes and WPI and FIRST Technical Resources says to install eclipse

Thanks! But, how about the driver station, its possible to use with the new one? or i need to use an old version?

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by chmconkling

Yes and WPI and FIRST Technical Resources says to install eclipse

Can you provide the link to the instructions for using eclipse for programming C++ for the cRIO?

[rockychat3]

We have been holding off on buying a second RoboRIO, but I had a few questions on ways we could save money. For context, we have two old 4-slot cRIOs no longer on working robots and we use Java. All of the students have only 2015 tools (Labview update and Eclipse) installed, but I have held back on upgrading software in case I am the only one who can still connect to a cRIO.

(1) Is it possible to have two versions of drivers station on the same PC?

(2) Is it possible to program the cRIO from Netbeans with the old plugins and the RoboRIO from Eclipse with the new plugins on the same PC?

(3) If we did buy a new RoboRIO, could we use a standard 20AMP slot on the old PDP to power it, saving us $200 on a new PDP (for internal/prototyping, not for competition)?

As a low to mid-budget team, I don't want to throw around that kind of money if we can get nearly the same benefit for less. Thanks

-andy / 4859

[orangemoore]

This is actually not true.

I don't have acess to a 4-slot crio but the current 2015 driver station should work with 4-slot cRIOs.

For the 2015 driver station to work, go to the 3rd tab on the left (the gear), and change the FMS protocol from '15 to 09' to '14

You should then be able to connect to the 4 slot cRIO.

I hope this helps.

[Ben Wolsieffer]

Originally Posted by orangemoore

I don't have acess to a 4-slot crio but the current 2015 driver station should work with 4-slot cRIOs.

For the 2015 driver station to work, go to the 3rd tab on the left (the gear), and change the FMS protocol from '15 to 09' to '14

You should then be able to connect to the 4 slot cRIO.

I hope this helps.

Despite that misleading switch, you are actually unable to use the new DS with the to control cRIOs running old code. See this thread for more information.

I believe it is possible to install this year's labview code on to the cRIO and allow it to use the 2015 protocol, but this doesn't work for other languages.

[orangemoore]

Originally Posted by lopsided98

Despite that misleading switch, you are actually unable to use the new DS with the to control cRIOs running old code. See this thread for more information.

I believe it is possible to install this year's labview code on to the cRIO and allow it to use the 2015 protocol, but this doesn't work for other languages.

I thought I saw something that said this.

We only have 8-slot cRIOs so we have to use the old driver station anyways.

[tStano]

Originally Posted by rockychat3

(1) Is it possible to have two versions of drivers station on the same PC?

http://wpilib.screenstepslive.com/s/...-all-languages
This update includes the driver station. Seeing as the first step is "uninstall old versions", I seriously doubt you can have both driver stations on the same PC, but perhaps it would be okay if you had them on different profiles. I have not tried this. I recommend getting a super cheap XP laptop someone probably has lying around for a cRIO driver station.

Originally Posted by rockychat3

(2) Is it possible to program the cRIO from Netbeans with the old plugins and the RoboRIO from Eclipse with the new plugins on the same PC?

This does indeed work. I've done it. You might spend a fair amount of time screwing with network settings, but if you're using a roboRIO, you probably will anyway.

Originally Posted by rockychat3

(3) If we did buy a new RoboRIO, could we use a standard 20AMP slot on the old PDP to power it, saving us $200 on a new PDP (for internal/prototyping, not for competition)?

I have not tried this, but my gut feeling is that you'll run into some troubles because the old PDP isn't CAN enabled and the new one is, as is the roboRIO. The roboRIO might get confused without the PDP on CAN, plus you couldn't do any current monitoring.

[ozrien]

The new roboRIO will function without the CAN feature of the PDP. It just won't have current-sense features. You will still be able to deploy code, debug, move motors, etc....

The roboRIO doesn't need the PDP CAN to function, it just needs battery voltage to power. To your point it wouldn't be legal but the question was for internal/prototyping, so you should be fine.