[FRC Blog] "Standard District Points System for 2015"

[cadandcookies]

This is the backend. Yes, teams can look at it, but realistically I'd anticipate most will just be looking at the chart for their event size and not worrying about the math behind it.

Would it have been nice to see at least that points would be based on rank earlier? Yes. But lacking knowledge of the timeline and how much effort went into this, I'm very reluctant to claim FIRST should have done anything differently.

A question for Districts teams: If you had this information at the beginning of the season, would it have changed your strategy for this year's game?

[Ben Wolsieffer]

Here is a quick calculation script I threw together. It requires Python 3. The inverf implementation is not mine and comes from here: http://johnkerl.org/python/normal_m.py.txt

I might extend it to generate tables in the future, but it works well enough for now. Let me know if you find a problem with it. It is a .txt because CD doesn't allow .py files.

[SoftwareBug2.0]

Originally Posted by lopsided98

Here is a quick calculation script I threw together. It requires Python 3. The inverf implementation is not mine and comes from here: http://johnkerl.org/python/normal_m.py.txt

I might extend it to generate tables in the future, but it works well enough for now. Let me know if you find a problem with it. It is a .txt because CD doesn't allow .py files.

I've turned the output of this program into a series of tables. Each file in the archive corresponds to an event size, and in each file each line lists a ranking and the number of points that is.

A quick note on the script: I have not verified the script and the first line of it says to use python 2.7 rather than version 3, so perhaps take these numbers with a grain of salt.

[Qbot2640]

We're confirmed to enter the District System next year (NC) so I'm trying to understand the math now. After the explanations of the formula - I get that...but I'm not sure I get how the Alliance Captains and Draft Order points compare. Would the first alliance captain and their first pick both get 16 points?

[Mark McLeod]

What better peer recognition could there be than being the #1 choice of the top ranked team?

[MooreteP]

I love math.

[GaryVoshol]

Yes, Alliance Captain 1 and their first pick both get 16 points, #2 each get 15 ... down to #8 captain and pick both get 9 points.

Alliance Captains are based on the position they hold after picking is done (e.g. if #1 picks #2, the original #3 captain becomes alliance captain #2 and gains a point).

Then on the way back up the serpentine draft, 2nd pick (3rd alliance members) for alliance #8 gets 8 points, #7 gets 7 points ... #1 alliance (last pick) gets 1 point.

[MasterMentor]

Originally Posted by cadandcookies

This is the backend. Yes, teams can look at it, but realistically I'd anticipate most will just be looking at the chart for their event size and not worrying about the math behind it.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by cadandcookies

Would it have been nice to see at least that points would be based on rank earlier? Yes. But lacking knowledge of the timeline and how much effort went into this, I'm very reluctant to claim FIRST should have done anything differently.

A question for Districts teams: If you had this information at the beginning of the season, would it have changed your strategy for this year's game?

What, you mean like in Frank's Blog on Kickoff Day?

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...ct-points-2015

Originally Posted by Frank's Blog

Points assignment for qualification round performance will be based on team rank at the end of qualification rounds, rather than some direct measure of match scores. To earn more points in the system, teams will want to focus on ranking well during events

[cadandcookies]

Originally Posted by MasterMentor

What, you mean like in Frank's Blog on Kickoff Day?

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...ct-points-2015

Thanks for catching that. Like I said, I'm not in a region with districts, so I tend to miss some of this stuff. Frankly given that, I'm even more confused by some of the complaints in this thread.