Robowranglers 2015: Batman & Robin

[Qcom]

I...wow. I am dumbfounded.

[tim-tim]

After watching the video over the past few days, I am still relatively speechless. About the only thing I can say is Thanks. Thanks for continuing to inspire me (and probably the rest of the FIRST world) with your creations.

Hope to get a chance to see this in person.

[Skyehawk]

Originally Posted by pandamonium

I am a little disappointed that they didn't also get all 4 bins off of the step in autonomous...

Best thing I read all day.

[Monochron]

Someone may have mentioned it already, but I'm betting that their human player is going to be the one controlling the stacker. I never understood why the human player was allowed to use the controller this year . . . I guess FIRST and 148 were way ahead of me.

[Kyler Hagler]

Oh my! Great robot for a great team. Cant wait to see it at Dallas!!!!

[SargeUSMC]

Good thing we didn't remove the big pair of SCISSORS we mounted to the front of our bot.....

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Monochron

Someone may have mentioned it already, but I'm betting that their human player is going to be the one controlling the stacker.

Unless their HP is staying in the driver's station (or near) and potentially letting someone else load the stacker and the litter, nope. There's a bit of a distance limitation, T6-1. That being said, if they're in the side station no problemo.

Though, given that it's 148, I'd be surprised if the stacker wasn't mostly automated anyway.

[Tammyo]

This looks awesome!!!

[Jonicool97]

Holy zipties! How the hell is anyone going to beat that?!

[lcoreyl]

Originally Posted by dtengineering

BUT... before anyone starts handing out Championship Banners just yet, my observation over the years is that three robots executing "conventional" strategy perfectly, tend to have the edge over unique or unconventional machines. If there were a machine to upset that observation, this might well be it, but there are many other machines that I'm looking forward to seeing yet!

Jason

I don't see how a 3 "conventional" robot alliance can beat 148 assuming we're talking elims here. Usually what you are talking about comes down to the fact top seeds have a weak 3rd bot, so 3 solid bots have an advantage. Well, in this case now it would just be 3v3 and 148's 3rd bot just has to do enough to break the tie.

I've only really followed other bots on CD since 2010. Are there any other examples of one robot doing the job of 2 elite robots simultaneously?

[TylerS]

Originally Posted by lcoreyl

I don't see how a 3 "conventional" robot alliance can beat 148 assuming we're talking elims here. Usually what you are talking about comes down to the fact top seeds have a weak 3rd bot, so 3 solid bots have an advantage. Well, in this case now it would just be 3v3 and 148's 3rd bot just has to do enough to break the tie.

I've only really followed other bots on CD since 2010. Are there any other examples of one robot doing the job of 2 elite robots simultaneously?

148 can't get the robot set points in autonomous

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by TylerS

148 can't get the robot set points in autonomous

They don't need them.

[TDav540]

Originally Posted by Gregor

They don't need them.

Maybe, maybe not. What if one of their alliance members accidentally knocks down a stack? Then maybe those four points come into play.

Anything can happen. It's why the matches are played.

[EricLeifermann]

148's advantage is the HP stacker.

There will be other singular robots that get 3 RC and a tote stack in auto. 148's advantage comes from being able to place stacks while their also creating another stack.

148 is beatable it will be the job of whom ever isn't on their elims alliance to build the right team to beat them.

Unless they change from the video 148 does not get the RC set and they CAN'T get the robot set so that's 12 points they won't be able to get. Is up to you to make sure your alliance can get those 12 and then at least go point for point them them the rest of the match. And that really only matters in the finals.

[lcoreyl]

Originally Posted by EricLeifermann

148's advantage is the HP stacker.

There will be other singular robots that get 3 RC and a tote stack in auto. 148's advantage comes from being able to place stacks while their also creating another stack.

this is what I implied by saying they are effectively 2 robots, which was just repeating what other people already said.
While their auto is incredible to watch, it is the prospect of how many max stacks they can make by themselves that is intriguing to me...

Originally Posted by EricLeifermann

Unless they change from the video 148 does not get the RC set and they CAN'T get the robot set so that's 12 points they won't be able to get. Is up to you to make sure your alliance can get those 12 and then at least go point for point them them the rest of the match. And that really only matters in the finals.

would you bet on them not being able to get the RC set? For the sake of argument, let's say they decide to just scrap hook bridge and floppy, and their alliance decides against the RC set because reasons. Don't you think they will more than make up for those 12 points?

I’m a little shocked that, unless I missed a post here, no one has speculated to their scoring ability? In a year with no defence?

I’ll start: I’m going with all 30 alliance station totes making 5 x 6 tote stacks with >=3 of those with a noodled RC on top is their “no problem” baseline. 28 auto + 30x2 totes + 3 n6RCs = 178?