Is anyone surprised by the scoring in week #1?

[RonnieS]

Is anyone mad at teams strategy? With the exception of a few good teams we have seen, the rest is bad...

I get that people have specialized robots but I am watching robots move a can towards the step when there are not any totes there, at least push one on! The lack of drive practice is showing severely and the alright robots are terrible, bad robots are better to maybe just not show up.
-Ronnie

[xXhunter47Xx]

Originally Posted by Ronnie314

Is anyone mad at teams strategy? With the exception of a few good teams we have seen, the rest is bad...

I get that people have specialized robots but I am watching robots move a can towards the step when there are not any totes there, at least push one on! The lack of drive practice is showing severely and the alright robots are terrible, bad robots are better to maybe just not show up.
-Ronnie

I wouldn't go as far to say that, as it definitely is not GP.
Anyways I will agree that driver practice is lacking and it's quite obvious. However, I think it will be better by week 4, team strategists are probably watching these streams right now to figure out what NOT to do, and scores will probably go up.

[IronicDeadBird]

Originally Posted by Ronnie314

Is anyone mad at teams strategy? With the exception of a few good teams we have seen, the rest is bad...

I get that people have specialized robots but I am watching robots move a can towards the step when there are not any totes there, at least push one on! The lack of drive practice is showing severely and the alright robots are terrible, bad robots are better to maybe just not show up.
-Ronnie

Strategy and Driver skill are two different things. Driver skill generally caps the effectiveness of your strategy. In all honesty I just think teams need to slow down a bit, speed isn't the biggest thing to worry about this year in my mind.

[Peyton Yeung]

I've seen a few box on wheels which have really messed up things for the other robots on the alliance.

[Zach101]

Originally Posted by JamesBrown

148 is having issues with Alfred which moves the Recycle containers out of the way in auto. They haven't been putting that component on the field. Rumor is it is fixed now and will be used after lunch.

Has it been fixed yet?

[Batterink]

Originally Posted by Zach101

Has it been fixed yet?

I've seen some talk of it being ruled unsafe. Possibly due to the hard to see cable.

Just rumors though.

[IronicDeadBird]

Originally Posted by Batterink

I've seen some talk of it being ruled unsafe. Possibly due to the hard to see cable.

Just rumors though.

It was on the field once and the bins it pulled didn't get completely contained unfortunately.

[Loose Screw]

I'm just happy that there's no game-breaking penalties like last year. It's hard watching teams that try to score points lose to teams trying to score penalties. Week 1 Centerline (detroit) still leaves bad memories.

[MrJohnston]

Originally Posted by Batterink

I've seen some talk of it being ruled unsafe. Possibly due to the hard to see cable.

Just rumors though.

Perhaps it could be "unsafe" because of the aspect of it being a bunch of metal falling from a height of about six feet? Whatever the issue, I'm sure 148 will have a solution before its next competition.

[Boltman]

148 can only use two of three other deemed illegal unless overturned (unlikely)

[faust1706]

Originally Posted by Boltman

148 can only use two of three other deemed illegal unless overturned (unlikely)

So they can't use their entire robot system? I feel that is incredibly unfair. I hope that rule is changed by the time of their other regionals.

[wesbass23]

Originally Posted by faust1706

So they can't use their entire robot system? I feel that is incredibly unfair. I hope that rule is changed by the time of their other regionals.

The refs have to stick to the rules though. If they start allowing passes then other teams will complain because they made sure to abide by the safety rules when designing their robot.

[Boltman]

Originally Posted by faust1706

So they can't use their entire robot system? I feel that is incredibly unfair. I hope that rule is changed by the time of their other regionals.

Its a safety violation the ref did not see the string so unless they can redesign it to high visibility they are playing with two robots.

[faust1706]

That's incredibly disappointing from the refs of frc then. They are penalizing creative game strategy. It's an illogical rule, and it's illogical to follow such a rule.

But alright. 148 will still mostly likely win every competition they go to....without using a third of their robot. I'd like to see other teams try to do that.

[IronicDeadBird]

Originally Posted by faust1706

That's incredibly disappointing from the refs of frc then. They are penalizing creative game strategy. It's an illogical rule, and it's illogical to follow such a rule.

But alright. 148 will still mostly likely win every competition they go to....without using a third of their robot. I'd like to see other teams try to do that.

Doesn't matter how creative something is if the price of said creativity is physical harm to another human being. If you disagree with the rule then disagree with the rule don't pin it on the people who have to enforce it. The refs are just doing their jobs.