Is anyone surprised by the scoring in week #1?

[MooreteP]

Is it me, or am I noticing that co-opertition STACKS are only getting 20 points rather than the 40 as stated in the Game Manual?

Also:
DON'T THROW THE NOODLES UNTIL CO-OPERTITION IS ACHIEVED!
Idiots.

In addition:
Some teams still don't seem to understand that yellow totes don't count in a stack during tele-op.

[Boltman]

Originally Posted by faust1706

That's incredibly disappointing from the refs of frc then. They are penalizing creative game strategy. It's an illogical rule, and it's illogical to follow such a rule.

But alright. 148 will still mostly likely win every competition they go to....without using a third of their robot. I'd like to see other teams try to do that.

Not necessarily

[Justin Montois]

Teams just aren't playing smart. Week 1 is tough. They are learning the game LIVE. I *hope* tonight teams take a look at how they played today and alter things a bit.

The thing i'm surprised by the most is the amount of stacks being placed without Recycling Containers. At least at Dallas. High level teams are doing it but that's about it.

[Boltman]

Tipped on side robots, DOA bots, knocked down stacks , wasted time == Week 1

[IronicDeadBird]

Originally Posted by Boltman

Tipped on side robots, DOA bots, knocked down stacks , wasted time == Week 1

I wouldn't call it a waste of time there is a lot you can learn from watching these streams.

[Fields]

Will the whole event be on youtube later?

[Justin Montois]

Originally Posted by IronicDeadBird

I wouldn't call it a waste of time there is a lot you can learn from watching these streams.

I think he meant teams are wasting time in the match. Which is accurate.

[Boltman]

Originally Posted by IronicDeadBird

I wouldn't call it a waste of time there is a lot you can learn from watching these streams.

"Waste of time" as in driver indecision not in viewing the events online. I agree that watching online is totally worth it, what I learned is we stack up well can't wait to compete...in a month in two in-a row regionals. Lots of good strategy ideas from today.

[BrennanB]

Originally Posted by Fields

Will the whole event be on youtube later?

Often times the events will be archived on the blue alliance with linked youtube videos.

[IronicDeadBird]

Originally Posted by Justin Montois

I think he meant teams are wasting time in the match. Which is accurate.

Showing up on the field is important even if you are DOA. Being on the field is the best time to get a lot of useful information regardless of the state of your robot. Yeah driver indecision is bad but the camera angles I got didn't help me see what was indecision and what was... The alternative to indecision.

[Zach101]

Originally Posted by Justin Montois

Teams just aren't playing smart. Week 1 is tough. They are learning the game LIVE. I *hope* tonight teams take a look at how they played today and alter things a bit.

The thing i'm surprised by the most is the amount of stacks being placed without Recycling Containers. At least at Dallas. High level teams are doing it but that's about it.

Being in week 1 this year for the the first time is so different for us. It definitely is a learning experience for us and others

[wesbass23]

Originally Posted by faust1706

That's incredibly disappointing from the refs of frc then. They are penalizing creative game strategy. It's an illogical rule, and it's illogical to follow such a rule.

But alright. 148 will still mostly likely win every competition they go to....without using a third of their robot. I'd like to see other teams try to do that.

I wouldn't say Alfred is 1/3 of their robot, pretty sure it is only used in autonomous. Someone else has said it already but it doesn't matter how creative an idea is if it breaks a rule or isn't safe. I'm sure it can be implemented in a safe manner, it just won't work in it's current state.

[SousVide]

For Alfred - wrap it in white tape, or blinky lights ?!

[Doug Frisk]

Originally Posted by MooreteP

Is it me, or am I noticing that co-opertition STACKS are only getting 20 points rather than the 40 as stated in the Game Manual?

Sets are 20, stacks are 40 points. It's possible the refs are clicking the set button instead of the stack button, or it's possible you saw a stack of 3 and a stack of 1 which would count for 20.

[Abhishek R]

Originally Posted by wesbass23

I wouldn't say Alfred is 1/3 of their robot, pretty sure it is only used in autonomous. Someone else has said it already but it doesn't matter how creative an idea is if it breaks a rule or isn't safe. I'm sure it can be implemented in a safe manner, it just won't work in it's current state.

I would say it is used for a bit more than autonomous. Though they seem to be doing fine without it, "Alfred" would solve one their current limiting factors on their score, which seems to be how quickly 148 can pick up a trashcan - it lines them all up in a single spot neatly for them to go and get.