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Re: pic: Litter scoring affects match outcomes!

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Re: pic: Litter scoring affects match outcomes!

In the first game of the finals at Lake Superior Regional, the score was 100 to 101. The winning alliance was able to move one Litter to the landfill in the last few seconds. Without the move, the other alliance would have won 104 to 100.
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Re: pic: Litter scoring affects match outcomes!

I'm preparing our team to throw litter as needed in weeks 5 and 6 hopefully by then litter throwing will NOT be a factor as is it "grey's" competition ..but be prepared anyhow! A good team should not need throw any litter to win IMO. But IF challenged should respond in kind..as in being prepared.
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Re: pic: Litter scoring affects match outcomes!

Had a similar result in Inland Empire, red won barely before blue litter was factored in. F-2 swung on this.
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Re: pic: Litter scoring affects match outcomes!

On a related note, our human player got all 10 noodles across for a perfect 40 points during the quarterfinals of the Georgia Southern Classic Regional. Without that perfect game, we wouldn't have advanced to the semifinals. Has anyone else seen all 10 thrown successfully across?
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On a related note, our human player got all 10 noodles across for a perfect 40 points during the quarterfinals of the Georgia Southern Classic Regional. Without that perfect game, we wouldn't have advanced to the semifinals. Has anyone else seen all 10 thrown successfully across?
1836's HP has done it. I didn't see it myself but I was told by their coach who saw it himself.
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1836's HP has done it. I didn't see it myself but I was told by their coach who saw it himself.
I didn't see it either--but it wouldn't surprise me. That kid can throw! 50% was a bad match for him--7-8 was typical.
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Re: pic: Litter scoring affects match outcomes!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the "Litter" score shown on the scoreboard also includes the 6 pts for each litter placed in an RC, no?
My point being that sometimes those high litter scores you see are not due to accurate throwers, but rather to teams going for maximum points by placing the litter where (IMHO) it really belongs.
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Re: pic: Litter scoring affects match outcomes!

I really feel like that litter shouldn't be worth so much but it is what it is.
I also really don't like that one of the core mechanics of this game is promoting throwing trash into your competitions work space, that is just rude.
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I also really don't like that one of the core mechanics of this game is promoting throwing trash into your competitions work space, that is just rude.
I feel like the puns this year are out of control.
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Re: pic: Litter scoring affects match outcomes!

I would love for the GDC to adjust the litter points to 2 or 3 for thrown. While they are impressive to score and should be valuable, I don't think they should be valued about equal to the maximum you can get with a stack, it makes seeding matches just that more wonky with co-op thrown in. I really didn't expect to see the level of noodle throwing we saw at Georgia though, 1466 was an absolute noodle machine.
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I would love for the GDC to adjust the litter points to 2 or 3 for thrown. While they are impressive to score and should be valuable, I don't think they should be valued about equal to the maximum you can get with a stack, it makes seeding matches just that more wonky with co-op thrown in. I really didn't expect to see the level of noodle throwing we saw at Georgia though, 1466 was an absolute noodle machine.
I don't think changing point values fixes anything. Even if they made all litter not in cans worth zero points, in elims you ought to throw them across just to make your opponents' match more difficult. A lucky throw can make your opponent waste tons of time - or even knock them out for the rest of the match if it ends up in a drivetrain or mechanism.
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On a related note, our human player got all 10 noodles across for a perfect 40 points during the quarterfinals of the Georgia Southern Classic Regional. Without that perfect game, we wouldn't have advanced to the semifinals. Has anyone else seen all 10 thrown successfully across?
Your human player was just ridiculously good. Ours was good but yours was just crazy good.
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