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View Poll Results: Was the right call made during Dallas Final match 3?
Yes, but only for the robot that was too tall 1 3.13%
Yes, but only for the robot that was in the Landfill 0 0%
Yes, they got the call right 5 15.63%
No, Finals match 3 was completely botched 26 81.25%
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Was the right call made at Dallas Finals match 3?

I know there is a similar thread! I did this one to add a poll to it to see what the community thinks and state why it was a bad call so people don't have to dig through the other thread!

So as many of you saw 2 robots were disabled during finals match 3 at Dallas (can't remember the exact numbers) and there was much controversy over it. In my opinion the match was completely botched and was determined by the head ref. Let me explain.

1.) The robot that was disabled for starting in the landfill by mistake should not have been disabled. Why? well rule G7-C States
Quote:
G7 When placed on the FIELD for a MATCH, each ROBOT must be:
A. in compliance with all ROBOT rules, i.e. it has passed Inspection. For exceptions regarding Practice MATCHES, see
Section 5.2 – Practice MATCHES.
B. fully supported by the floor, SCORING PLATFORM, and/or SCORING PLATFORM ramps on their ALLIANCE’S side of the
FIELD, and
C. completely outside of their AUTO ZONE and LANDFILL ZONE.
VIOLATION: If fix is a quick remedy, the MATCH won’t start until all requirements are met. If it is not a quick remedy the offending
ROBOT will be DISABLED and at the discretion of the Head REFEREE must be re-Inspected.
Right there part C. The rule states that the robot can't start in the landfill. No one is arguing this but read the violation section. I would consider moving the robot a few inches a quick fix.

2.)This one that was too tall may have had more of a correct call. Considering it was an entire mechanism that was too tall it may have taken longer than a "quick fix" to fit the rules. What beats me is that under rule T-10 you are required to get a re inspection after major changes. Now i don't know if they were never given a chance to get reinspected or they neglected to do so, but if they did get there re inspect this would have been prevented. Either way, the drive team should have been allowed back on the field to see if they could quickly remove the mechanism.

What bothers me most, is that i heard that a team member of one of the disabled robots said they never knew they were going to be disabled until the match started and there auto never ran.

What do other people think of this call?

EDIT: A blog post was posted about this topic on the frc blog which can be found here http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...al-Final-Match

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