Which 3 robots would form the most overpowered alliance?

[DampRobot]

Originally Posted by themccannman

.25 seconds? what is this? the james may alliance?

The fastest RC grab...

In the World.

[xman206]

1983, 1318 and 118... 1318 can pickup two recycling bins in auto mode, 1983 can stack fast as hell, and 118 mechanism to put the recycling container on top of the stack is awesome.

[PayneTrain]

Originally Posted by JamesBrown

I am not as sold on the necessity of can specialists. 1114 and 118 could easily do 5 capped stacks of 6 plus a 20 point auto without any help from a third partner. 1114 can do 3 stacks capped every time, and 118 could consistently grab 2 RCs from the center and create 6 stacks with them.

Trying to think of an eloquent way to say this but it might be hard. Lot of stuff on the field, not a lot of space for robots. You can cordon off sections of the field for each alliance member depending on their abilities. You can go a step further and create a more efficient process if you limit what your "jobs" are because you are not spending time traveling between jobs. A robot that just has to take care of cans would not have to take time to make a stack and robots that can make stacks do not need to go fetch cans and have them on top of their stacks while traveling. While 1114 has a pretty elegant solution for can instability, even their's isn't perfect. Having 3 robots do the same thing this year would give your alliance total diminishing returns as their overall individual scoring potential increases.

While each game deserves their own unique perspectives, look at different scoring objects in the 2015 game instead manifesting themselves as different tasks of the 2013 game. Having three great full court shooters doesn't make a lot of sense. Having three robots that specialize in a 7 disc auto is also a waste of time. Having three robots that 30 point climb is probably going to be difficult to pull off.

Having 3 1114's won't score as many points as an alliance that can actually complement itself. It isn't like 2014 where robots had specific tactical differences, but in 2015 robots are designed around specific strategic differences, which are a lot more concrete.

[Mitchell1714]

Im going to wait to see the Cheesy Poofs and D'Penguineers to play before I hop on the IFI team bandwagon.

[brandon.cottrell]

I'm gonna call it now, 1114 148 217.

[Anupam Goli]

Originally Posted by Mitchell1714

Im going to wait to see the Cheesy Poofs and D'Penguineers to play before I hop on the IFI team bandwagon.

You'll have to wait til champs, because 1717 usually starts out kinda rough. They get much better by champs.

[Koko Ed]

So far the three best robots I've seen this year are 1114, 987 and 148.
The field aint big enough for the three of them.

[Lil' Lavery]

If you are consistently out stacking other alliances (especially beyond the margin for litter points), you only need the fastest 2-can grabber to "win." The only exception is if two (or more) other alliances have 4-can grabbers that can beat enough other opposing alliances to raise their average above yours in the SFs.

[waialua359]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

So far the three best robots I've seen this year are 1114, 987 and 148.
The field aint big enough for the three of them.

I think you mean 4, 5 or 6 of them. *2 for 1114 and 3 for 148.

[g_sawchuk]

You would clearly have 1114 as your landfill grabber, and 148 as your human player loader. 148 can use the 3 bins on their side to cap their 3 stacks. You have some undecided 4 bin grabber that grabs the bins. 1114 can use 3 to top their stacks, and 148 can use the other as they tend to make 4 stacks.

[The other Gabe]

Originally Posted by xman206

1983, 1318 and 118... 1318 can pickup two recycling bins in auto mode, 1983 can stack fast as hell, and 118 mechanism to put the recycling container on top of the stack is awesome.

Naturally you'd pick yourself not a bad choice though, tbh

If you were to do that, though, you'd want 1114, not 148. 148 works from the same spot you do, 1114 works out of the landfill. also, if you're going for IRS solely for their RC grabber, 3310 is faster, and appears to have a more consistent mechanism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmyp...ature=youtu.be. or 118, which is also faster, and currently a better robot than 1318. there's a lot of good RC grabbers.

[asid61]

Originally Posted by themccannman

.25 seconds? what is this? the james may alliance?

Not sure who that is, sorry. But I think that a 0.25 second 2-can grab by two robots will be very important on einstein. 4-can autons may not be able to compete in speed.
1114-148-2-can auton. 1114 will hopefully add a 2-can auton, as it's quite simple and easy to add. Stay tuned for Utah next week.
If 1114 doesn't do that, 118-148-2can would be my pick.

[Ichlieberoboter]

Originally Posted by cmrnpizzo14

Pending 1678, but going off of their teaser...

148, 1114, 1678

148 stacks from the feeder, 1114 stacks from the landfill, 1678 grabs all the recycle bins off of the step.

I think that's pretty accurate, but I'd say 4818 to do stacks from the feeder and maybe 93 for bins. Their robots are RIDICULOUSLY amazing together. 4818 made I think 3 stacks of 5 and a stack of 2 or 3 in a match at the Lake Superior Regional and then New Apple Corps (93) topped them with recycling bins (some with litter) in the finals. CRAZY
Props to 2526 for picking them as their alliance partners even after 4818 took 62nd in qualifiers. Smart job there.

[themccannman]

Originally Posted by asid61

Not sure who that is, sorry. But I think that a 0.25 second 2-can grab by two robots will be very important on einstein. 4-can autons may not be able to compete in speed.
1114-148-2-can auton. 1114 will hopefully add a 2-can auton, as it's quite simple and easy to add. Stay tuned for Utah next week.
If 1114 doesn't do that, 118-148-2can would be my pick.

James May, as noted by wikipedia aka "captain slow", I think you know what I'm hinting at

[artK]

Originally Posted by WillRobinson

200 point matches will probably be fairly common at champs. The 987/148 alliance scored 215 in Dallas F2 with 987 about 3 seconds away from placing another RC on a six stack.

I would have to disagree with this claim. According to the Blue Alliance's charts, the average score for Championship elims approximately doubles the average elims scores during week 1 (The largest ratio between the two was about 2.5 in 2010).

This year, week 1 elims average scores were about 80. By the above estimate, the average elims scores at champs would be about 160. There is little doubt that we will see 200s on the scoreboards during elims at champs, but I would be hesitant to say that 200 will be fairly common.