Week 2 Live Discussion

[PayneTrain]

Originally Posted by Boltman

My only thought is week 2 is when we earned a spot to the Champs as rooks last year.

Now in 2015 its possibly earning it in weeks 5 and/or 6 with only 2 weeks to plan a trip back should we be successful again.

Last year we had 3 extra weeks to get it all together and it still seemed to go so fast just getting everything together for that team trip to STL with all the planning involved.

Potential 2 week turnaround to STL is really quick this year...and last minute air and booked hotels argh

Oh well hope we get to find out.

Welcome to week 7 invites. It sounds silly, but plan ahead if you feel confident.

[tindleroot]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

"Great" meaning the stream didn't drop and I knew who the robots were because the big black one was 148 and the white and gold one was 118.

I saw 118, and I'm pretty sure they were blue and black

[George Nishimura]

1114's Day 1 performance was so dominant, that if their alliance scored no points for the rest of qualifications, the second seed would still need around 200 points in their remaining 3 games to overtake them.

1114 = 141.5 * 8 = 1132*
2609 = 76.28 * 7 = 534*

That's terrifyingly impressive. I wonder what their elimination/selection strategy will be.

*There seems to be disparity between adding up all the columns (auto/container/coop/tote/litter) and the QA. Not sure why, but the QA is more accurate. Is there double-counting somewhere?

[RufflesRidge]

Originally Posted by George Nishimura

*There seems to be disparity between adding up all the columns (auto/container/coop/tote/litter) and the QA. Not sure why, but the QA is more accurate. Is there double-counting somewhere?

Fouls don't have a column, and are the one thing left.

[dradel]

anyone know if and where there is a live stream for ne district pioneer valley?

[George Nishimura]

Originally Posted by RufflesRidge

Fouls don't have a column, and are the one thing left.

Of course! Can't believe I forgot about that. Cheers.

[g_sawchuk]

Originally Posted by George Nishimura

1114's Day 1 performance was so dominant, that if their alliance scored no points for the rest of qualifications, the second seed would still need around 200 points in their remaining 3 games to overtake them.

1114 = 141.5 * 8 = 1132*
2609 = 76.28 * 7 = 534*

That's terrifyingly impressive. I wonder what their elimination/selection strategy will be.

*There seems to be disparity between adding up all the columns (auto/container/coop/tote/litter) and the QA. Not sure why, but the QA is more accurate. Is there double-counting somewhere?

1114 is indeed essentially solo'ing this regional. If they 1v3'd any of these robots in a match they would win, or come extremely close. And that's really scary. I'm really looking forward to seeing the 1114 and 2056 duo at Windsor...

[Boltman]

Originally Posted by dradel

anyone know if and where there is a live stream for ne district pioneer valley?

NE First:
Springfield Pioneer Valley Event District (3/6-3/7) - Blue Stream
http://www.twitch.tv/nefirst_blue

North Shore Reading Event District (3/7-3/8) - Red Stream
http://www.twitch.tv/nefirst_red

[BrennanB]

Originally Posted by GrifBot

1114 is indeed essentially solo'ing this regional. If they 1v3'd any of these robots in a match they would win, or come extremely close. And that's really scary. I'm really looking forward to seeing the 1114 and 2056 duo at Windsor...

Or how about any elimination alliance in the world so far

1114's average score: 142.90
3130, 525, 4215 average score: 138.43
118, 624, 2613 average score: 137.75
148, 987, 3802 average score: 130.13
4488, 2550, 2093 average score: 105.29
33, 1024, 4768 Average score: 91.14

[Boltman]

Originally Posted by BrennanB

Or how about any elimination alliance in the world so far

1114's average score: 142.90
3130, 525, 4215 average score: 138.43
118, 624, 2613 average score: 137.75
148, 987, 3802 average score: 130.13
4488, 2550, 2093 average score: 105.29
33, 1024, 4768 Average score: 91.14

1114's Achilles if there is one....will be not fast enough grabbing contested RC's off wall by itself

What I do like a lot about 1114 is the fact they can process via LF faster than any HP bot which is what I have been saying all along don't give up on LF their are more totes there easily accessible. Not slowed by tote chute door.

I think theirs is the best overall design hands down (1st two weeks) due to word class LF processing speed...with a single non-tethered bot. They typically match with a single bot what 148+987 (three bots with Human help) do.

If 1114 gets matched with the fastest RC wall grabber the WC is in the bag... I don't care what the third robot does unless they are the fastest RC+Noodle topper...alleviating slower the RC 1st step in building the stack of 1114 (26 seconds shave off 8-10)

There is no question in my mind they can be the best by design and not neglecting the plentiful LF.

[Dylan Danzeiser]

Originally Posted by BrennanB

Or how about any elimination alliance in the world so far

1114's average score: 142.90
3130, 525, 4215 average score: 138.43
118, 624, 2613 average score: 137.75
148, 987, 3802 average score: 130.13
4488, 2550, 2093 average score: 105.29
33, 1024, 4768 Average score: 91.14

To be fair, I'm pretty sure the 148, 987, 3802 alliance score is offset by the many games in which one or both of them were either not moving or not allowed on the field...

[Walter Deitzler]

Totally savage match just happened in Arkansas, Roboteers and Pwnage looking terrifying.

Edit: Metool also looking scary, can't leave them out.

[Navid Shafa]

Originally Posted by Walter Deitzler

Totally savage match just happened in Arkansas, Roboteers and Pwnage looking terrifying.

Edit: Metool also looking scary, can't leave them out.

206 points in a qual match, compared to last week's highest elim score of 215...

2481/2451 are on fire.

[PayneTrain]

Here's some fun numbers out of Canada

Alliance 1 Captain 1114: 142.9
Alliance 2 188+4001: 142.7
Alliance 3 4946+3360: 142.5
Alliance 4 1310+2609: 134.8

giggity

This game doesn't necessarily scale like you think it should. Certain strategies in the game right now (at least at GTRC) are stupid if you try them, while in 7 weeks it's stupid if you don't. As far as I know, 1114 has not run a co-op stack themselves in any match even though they generate an auto tote stack. I assume the POV they take is because of the disparate quality of them vs. the field means for every time they run a Co-Op stack they artificially inflate the scores of the other 5 teams on the alliance, with their partners to a lesser extent. Some events even a robot like 1114 might be better off with having co-op run than not, but right now they are beating the median QA at GTRC within the first minute of the match.

Also even with the 610 pick by 1114, they probably don't even need step cans here. None of their opponent combos are breaking the 150 point barrier, which is a somewhat arbitrary benchmark I establish for an elim score you can achieve without step cans. I'm not including third robots just because if anything third robots at a pretty shallow event like GTRC could be impeding scores even in the 4, 5, and 6 alliances. 1547 might only see the field so 1114 doesn't have to tether to their ramp.

[SeanFitz]

Is it just me, or are teams seeming to go for (and complete) the coopertition stacks less and less often? If so, why the big change from week 1 to 2?