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Human Player Strategy, Legal?

I had somewhat of a crazy idea thinking of ways that I can improve my performance as a human player.

Since the human player zone is an area, couldn't I just put a tote against the wall and stand on it whilst throwing litter? The other dude could just be doing whatever with the totes and I have some extra height to help me with my litter throwing (maybe even do two totes?). Technically I'm not on the "area" of the HP since I am above it so the 3rd HP could come in and feed totes.

Does this seem logical?
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Re: Human Player Strategy, Legal?

well i don't have the manual handy, but i know that the refs prohibit standing on game pieces/elements at the competition
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Re: Human Player Strategy, Legal?

Nope. G3.

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Re: Human Player Strategy, Legal?

If you put the tote against the wall next to the Chute Door, you would still be in the Human Player Station.

I feel like this practice would be ruled unsafe and therefore not ok to do.
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Re: Human Player Strategy, Legal?

This is the type of rules lawyering that causes extremely strict and confusing rule books. Read the rules for their intent, don't try to bend them.
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Re: Human Player Strategy, Legal?

Ok, well thanks for the responses. I felt like I had a good idea but didn't catch that G3 rule when I looked over the rules.
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Re: Human Player Strategy, Legal?

At the Georgia Southern Classic, a guy asked this during the driver's meeting and the head ref shot him down. To the second part of your question, the human player zone extends upward infinitely. I think that's in the Q and A. Anyways, good luck on your competition season!
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Re: Human Player Strategy, Legal?

It seems extremely unsafe.
Especially if that tote just happened to be a totebot...
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Re: Human Player Strategy, Legal?

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To the second part of your question, the human player zone extends upward infinitely. I think that's in the Q and A. Anyways, good luck on your competition season!
The Human Player zone does not extend upward infinitely (Unless there is an even newer Q and A that I missed somehow). They have clarified that it is an area, and not a volume, and described their reasoning in Q&A 281


G3 is the reason that you cannot step on the tote.
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Re: Human Player Strategy, Legal?

Always thought it was interesting how you can have a 6' 2" human player, but shorter people can't stand on something to make themselves 6'2"
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Re: Human Player Strategy, Legal?

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Always thought it was interesting how you can have a 6' 2" human player, but shorter people can't stand on something to make themselves 6'2"
Each person has their own set of "gifts". The idea is not to make everyone the same, but to use each person's gift to the best of their ability.

Note: there is a difference between a disability, and normal variation (height).

Some people are better at the physical aspect of the game, some at hand-to-eye coordination, some at strategy, and then there are other aspects of the team - outreach, fundraising, business, etc.
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Re: Human Player Strategy, Legal?

Please read what is imprinted on the top of the totes.
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Please read what is imprinted on the top of the totes.
Made in China?
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Made in China?
It says do not sit or stand on the tote if I recall correctly.
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