1114 the Statistical Outlier

[The other Gabe]

Originally Posted by GrifBot

Their design is literally amazing. However, they're going to do a lot more to win championships. If you were like me and watched Dallas, the scores were much higher than GTRC. 1114 needs to work more on incorporating all members of their alliance to thus max their efficiency. None the less, awesome robot, and I think they will go far.

Part of the reason for this is that there were at least 4 very good teams at Dallas, while GTRC had really just 1114

I do not mean to insult the multitude of very good robots that were at both events, I'm merely trying to point out that the upper echelon included more teams at Dallas than at GTRC

[g_sawchuk]

Originally Posted by The other Gabe

Part of the reason for this is that there were at least 4 very good teams at Dallas, while GTRC had really just 1114

I do not mean to insult the multitude of very good robots that were at both events, I'm merely trying to point out that the upper echelon included more teams at Dallas than at GTRC

I would in fact agree with this point. However, you have to find a way to utilize every robot in order to succeed. Even if you have, per say, a very weak bin grabber, let that robot do that, even if it takes a little bit longer. You will have more time to stack, and they will cap in time. Just find the strong suits of each robot, even if they're small.

[microbuns]

Originally Posted by GrifBot

I would in fact agree with this point. However, you have to find a way to utilize every robot in order to succeed. Even if you have, per say, a very weak bin grabber, let that robot do that, even if it takes a little bit longer. You will have more time to stack, and they will cap in time. Just find the strong suits of each robot, even if they're small.

I think Waterloo will be a good place for them to show/not show being able to work on a team - a lot of depth in that field.

[tindleroot]

I don't think we need statistics to tell us that 1114 is an outlier

[Citrus Dad]

Originally Posted by GrifBot

I would in fact agree with this point. However, you have to find a way to utilize every robot in order to succeed. Even if you have, per say, a very weak bin grabber, let that robot do that, even if it takes a little bit longer. You will have more time to stack, and they will cap in time. Just find the strong suits of each robot, even if they're small.

Not so fast on that point. That's not what is happening in the highest scoring regional playoffs. And the game design encourages that. In fact in a match where we had 1323 off the field while we added the can grabber, our alliance got the 4 pt robot set in auto to score 32 points total, the only perfect auto at the event. The field is so tight that having 3 moving robots while building many stacks becomes risky compared to the payoff.

[The other Gabe]

Originally Posted by GrifBot

I would in fact agree with this point. However, you have to find a way to utilize every robot in order to succeed. Even if you have, per say, a very weak bin grabber, let that robot do that, even if it takes a little bit longer. You will have more time to stack, and they will cap in time. Just find the strong suits of each robot, even if they're small.

which they did do to a certain extent, but in this game there are two distinct strategies.
The 1st (and sometimes 2nd)-place alliance, which is the two best teams at the event. they both kinda do their own thing while the 3rd robot is off in a corner trying to stay out of the way while being as useful as possible (you'll see this at most events)
The later placed alliance that magically made it to finals: this team has everything down to a science. the all know who does what part of the process and has gotten it down to maximize their points. still usually lose to the first place alliance (as is what happened to my team at PNW Auburn Mountainview)

What I'm trying to say here is that if the first two (or sometimes even one robot) are good enough, the third alliance partner matters not. in other games they make all the difference, and they definitely will at worlds. the teams that prescribe to the first strategy can only make it so far when other alliances are maximizing scores with three quality robots on the field, something that is just so hard to do at a Regional or District level.

Did I actually end up responding to you? Cuz I was trying to say that sometimes the third robot means nothing (even if it usually helps)