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Re: Ramps

I appreciate the back and forth conversation...Though, I probably should have taken it to PM long ago.

As I try hard to leave this alone, my brain just won't let me...Someone explain to my brain how...IF under R1 (a portion says in part)..."...The ROBOT must include all of the basic systems required to be an active participant in the game –power, communications, control, and movement."

Let me break that down into both word & spirit of rules segments AS I PERSONALLY SEE THEM; not everybody has to though....

The ROBOT must include all of the basic systems required...
...to be an active participant in the game -...
...power, communications, control, and movement.

So, the intent is that the robot have the parts required, the robot be assembled, to be able to be powered, communicate, be controlled, & move or cause movement....A BOX of parts placed on the field does not work and is specifically exempted. (My addition; So, ergo, let them show their stuff).

Then, why was/is it necessary for The Human Player to trigger the movement of the ramp into downward motion by pushing with a litter through the litter chute? (And I am not saying it is illegal to do so, as I know about the contact w/ a robot from outside the field, "is exempt" as long as it is litter through the chute...Yes, Litter Chute)....I'm referring to Robot Rule R1 only. I fully understand tethering or leashing...but a dumber leash or tether you cannot possibly find in this game. That 1547 robot controlled those ramps in no real way whatsoever, nor moved them, or even itself, an inch in that entire match. (How hard to add to the ramp, 1 motor, 1 long PWM cable to the bright orange tether, a little programming code, and hook it up to their actual 3rd partner bot, and make it a true partner in the game. (IF actually deemed legal & proper to continue to do so in the future).

I feel a bit sorry for that team, and all the hard work, time, dedication, & expense involved in building their robot (not to mention the per event large entry fee)...I hope they have a pretty Blue Banner, a title & a Champs invite & an invite to play with you at "THE BIG SHOW TOO" (and I'm definitely sure they do have at least some of that, by now...though nobody could plan that last part to actually happen ;-), too many variables there, & variables are actually doubled this year), to show for it.

If they aren't complaining...Then who am I to? (Personally though, I'd be working on at least a robot set w/ the other suggestions above, so they actually feel as though they contributed to actual points scored in matches played). I just don't subscribe to the "well if it is advantageous to us, then go for it" part of the party. On the other hand...I'm sure they agreed to those parameters, and will assume, before the actual pick too. It is the nature of the beast...But, I'll also encourage a bit more inclusion, as others repeatedly have here too. I do agree with showing all your individual talents...But, they don't call it a "3 Robot Alliance" for nothing.
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