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Adrian Clark Adrian Clark is offline
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Re: pic: KING TeC 2169 Lift Gear

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Originally Posted by llamadon View Post
Our team actually does not have any mechanical engineers as mentors, in fact the entire robot was CADed, and manufactured by students (under the supervision of a few qualified parents.) We have addressed the issue by ordering a new gear, fashioned from steel instead of aluminum.

It seems that vex pro has already been notified of this issue, which is why they offer this gear in a steel variety.

Thanks for the wise words!



It definitely was a stall condition that caused the failure! We'll have to be a little more careful this week in Wisconsin


What happened was our operator and driver were pushing for a faster cycle time, and I believe the operator had driven the elevator down and stalled the gearbox in this haste. It is powered by two CIM motors at a 9.52:1 reduction, with a stall torque hovering around 350lbs. Looking at the gear teeth it is apparent that they are a little wimpy for high load applications . We'll have a steel replacement when we get to competition and replace it on Thursday.
The broken gear: 7075 Al ~70ksi yield strength
Common steel gear: ~40ksi yeild strength

You can't fix this problem by replacing the gear. The pinion is overloaded and the best fix is a redesign that reduces load.

-Adrian

Edit: I went on a gear strength rant a while back, it could help you.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...4&postcount=15

Last edited by Adrian Clark : 16-03-2015 at 00:23.
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