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Re: Dangerous precedent set by Q&A 461: Loaning Parts/Assemblies to other teams

The FRC GDC have to take responsibility for designing a game where theoretically, the winning alliance on Einstein can:
- have two robots
- "win" the game in the first two seconds

Whether or not that will transpire is mainly irrelevant, but what is up for discussion is what we do from here.

If you asked me (note: not my team, me personally) whether I would be willing to win a district/regional/district championship where my robot was:

a) not on the field
b) on the field did not move/tethering a cheesecake
c) only moved in the first 5 seconds using cheesecake

I would still be happy when we won, because I enjoy winning, and it would be a ticket/aid for getting to World's.

I honestly don't know how I would feel if it was actually at World's. I imagine bittersweet, especially for scenarios a and b. But I don't know if my team would feel the same, and it is apparent people in this thread would have different answers. It would after all be a valuable learning experience, and an opportunity we wouldn't have otherwise.

Ultimately, as has been said in previous years, GDC needs a means of designing better games, especially avoiding those that unwittingly put GP and winning in conflict. For this year, I think any "ruling"will be difficult to enforce, and it should be left to individual teams to accept or deny a certain role. This specific cheesecake rule is also ambiguous and requires further explanation.

Also while cheesecake is delicious, it's also very unhealthy. I'm not sure if that makes the metaphor more or less apt.
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