2015 Waitlist Spots

[lynca]

If you were invited on the waitlist, what day did your team receive your waitlist invitation ?

[IndySam]

We got our invitation last Monday, our last appearance in St Louis was 2013. We registered for the wait list the minute it was open.

I was a bit surprised that they didn't wait until after district championship this weekend. Spending $9K in one day was painful!

[safiq10]

We found out that we received the waitlist card on Friday afternoon. Thanks to FIRST in Texas we were able to pay off our registration today. We found out all this at the OKC competition.

[Cash4587]

We were given a waitlist spot Thursday March 26th. They emailed us and said we have been taken off of the waitlist to participate in champs. Then we called to confirm and get everything set up.

[tindleroot]

Just to be sure, do district teams that receive a waitlist spot take up one of their district's allocated slots, or is it additional? I am expecting waitlist spots are separate from the district slots.

[Link07]

Here's the list of teams qualified off of the wait-list, with the last time they qualified for champs. There may be some errors, as it was difficult to determine wildcard scenarios in some instances. The current number is ~70.

* = Never attended Championship (Year listed is rookie year)

41	2012
78	2014
102	2010
135	2014
157	2004
166	2011
203	2011
223	2010
238	2011
269	2012
339	2009
358	2013
369	2012
587	2012
691	2001
829	2013
894	2009
931	2011
1255	2004*
1339	2004*
1391	2012
1510	2011
1533	2008
1622	2013
2068	2007
2075	2009
2183	2007*
2228	2007
2339	2012
2531	2008*
2658	2008*
2767	2009
2875	2009*
2883	2009*
2950	2009*
2992	2010
3026	2009*
3042	2014
3175	2010*
3184	2010*
3288	2012
3350	2010
3352	2010
3357	2012
3566	2012
3604	2011*
3648	2011*
3653	2011*
3735	2011*
4028	2012
4207	2012*
4355	2014
4364	2012*
4381	2012*
4471	2013
4571	2013*
4584	2013*
4587	2013*
4707	2013
4841	2013*
4842	2013*
4951	2014*
4964	2014*
5162	2014*
5209	2014*
5349	2014*

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Link07

Here's the list of teams qualified off of the wait-list, with the last time they qualified for champs. There may be some errors, as it was difficult to determine wildcard scenarios in some instances. The current number is ~70.

4201 is a wildcard team, as of yesterday.

[Link07]

Originally Posted by EricH

4201 is a wildcard team, as of yesterday.

Thanks, I have removed them from the list.

[EOC]

Team 1208 received a wildcard slot, not not a wait list slot.

[Link07]

Originally Posted by EOC

Team 1208 received a wildcard slot, not not a wait list slot.

Fixed

[ThunderousPrime]

I'm at a little baffled at how the teams that attended the Championship last year (78, 135, 3042, 4355) were able to apparently get waitlist spots. Perhaps there is something I don't know but it seems to contradict Frank's blog post from a while back.

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Waitlist Changes for 2015

Waitlist slots will no longer be first come first served, as they have been – essentially – in prior years. When teams sign up for the Waitlist will no longer matter, as long as they sign up during the time the Waitlist is open.

Also, teams will be selected randomly from the Waitlist, with the number of chances they have of being selected equal to the number of years they have missed attending Championship. As an example, if a team on the 2015 waitlist last attended Championship in 2012, that team has ‘missed’ Championship twice, and so will have their number ‘put in the hat’** twice. If a team on the 2015 waitlist last attended Championship in 2004, they have ‘missed’ Championship 10 times, and will have their number put in the hat 10 times.*** Teams who have never been to Championship will be considered as missing every year they have been a team. You will note this means that teams who attended Championship in 2014 will not be eligible for selection from the Waitlist. As a practical matter, though, since for several years Waitlist sign-ups for teams attending the prior year Championship have been later than those who had not attended the prior year, we rarely – if ever – have ended up inviting those prior-year teams anyway. One final note – teams must have participated in FRC during all their ‘missed’ years for those years to count in this system. As an example, for a team that participated in FRC in 2002, then did not participate again until 2005, we would only look back to 2005 in determining Championships missed.

[Link07]

Originally Posted by ThunderousPrime

I'm at a little baffled at how the teams that attended the Championship last year (78, 135, 3042, 4355) were able to apparently get waitlist spots.

This confusion stems from the fact that the blog post does not reflect the system that would be eventually be implemented in the 2015 Administrative Manual. According to Section 7.5 of the Administrative Manual:

Teams will receive a number of “entries” to get selected from the Waitlist equal to 2015 minus the last year they attended Championship (or their rookie year, or when they most recently returned as an active team, whichever year is the most recent). As examples, a team that attended in 2014 will get one entry in the waitlist drawing, a team that last attended in 2013 will get two, and a team that has never attended but has been continuously active since 2005 will get ten.

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[MrTechCenter]

Originally Posted by Link07

This confusion stems from the fact that the blog post does not reflect the system that would be eventually be implemented in the 2015 Administrative Manual. According to Section 7.5 of the Administrative Manual:



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But there are plenty of teams with far more "entries" than the teams that participated at last year's championships yet these teams still get to go while others have to wait and see. It doesn't make much sense to me. Unless, these teams that attended last year have qualified in some other way that has not yet been reflected on this thread.

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by MrTechCenter

But there are plenty of teams with far more "entries" than the teams that participated at last year's championships yet these teams still get to go while others have to wait and see. It doesn't make much sense to me. Unless, these teams that attended last year have qualified in some other way that has not yet been reflected on this thread.

It's The Hunger Games and those lucky teams are Prim.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by MrTechCenter

But there are plenty of teams with far more "entries" than the teams that participated at last year's championships yet these teams still get to go while others have to wait and see. It doesn't make much sense to me. Unless, these teams that attended last year have qualified in some other way that has not yet been reflected on this thread.

It is a random drawing. If you have 20 tickets into a drawing, I have one, and there are 500 tickets overall and one prize, I have a 1/500 chance and you have a 1/25 chance for the prize. But if my ticket is drawn first, I get the prize, right?

More entries means a higher chance of getting your ticket drawn, but your ticket still needs to be drawn.