2015 Waitlist Spots

[ThunderousPrime]

I'm at a little baffled at how the teams that attended the Championship last year (78, 135, 3042, 4355) were able to apparently get waitlist spots. Perhaps there is something I don't know but it seems to contradict Frank's blog post from a while back.

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Waitlist Changes for 2015

Waitlist slots will no longer be first come first served, as they have been – essentially – in prior years. When teams sign up for the Waitlist will no longer matter, as long as they sign up during the time the Waitlist is open.

Also, teams will be selected randomly from the Waitlist, with the number of chances they have of being selected equal to the number of years they have missed attending Championship. As an example, if a team on the 2015 waitlist last attended Championship in 2012, that team has ‘missed’ Championship twice, and so will have their number ‘put in the hat’** twice. If a team on the 2015 waitlist last attended Championship in 2004, they have ‘missed’ Championship 10 times, and will have their number put in the hat 10 times.*** Teams who have never been to Championship will be considered as missing every year they have been a team. You will note this means that teams who attended Championship in 2014 will not be eligible for selection from the Waitlist. As a practical matter, though, since for several years Waitlist sign-ups for teams attending the prior year Championship have been later than those who had not attended the prior year, we rarely – if ever – have ended up inviting those prior-year teams anyway. One final note – teams must have participated in FRC during all their ‘missed’ years for those years to count in this system. As an example, for a team that participated in FRC in 2002, then did not participate again until 2005, we would only look back to 2005 in determining Championships missed.

[Link07]

Originally Posted by ThunderousPrime

I'm at a little baffled at how the teams that attended the Championship last year (78, 135, 3042, 4355) were able to apparently get waitlist spots.

This confusion stems from the fact that the blog post does not reflect the system that would be eventually be implemented in the 2015 Administrative Manual. According to Section 7.5 of the Administrative Manual:

Teams will receive a number of “entries” to get selected from the Waitlist equal to 2015 minus the last year they attended Championship (or their rookie year, or when they most recently returned as an active team, whichever year is the most recent). As examples, a team that attended in 2014 will get one entry in the waitlist drawing, a team that last attended in 2013 will get two, and a team that has never attended but has been continuously active since 2005 will get ten.

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[MrTechCenter]

Originally Posted by Link07

This confusion stems from the fact that the blog post does not reflect the system that would be eventually be implemented in the 2015 Administrative Manual. According to Section 7.5 of the Administrative Manual:



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But there are plenty of teams with far more "entries" than the teams that participated at last year's championships yet these teams still get to go while others have to wait and see. It doesn't make much sense to me. Unless, these teams that attended last year have qualified in some other way that has not yet been reflected on this thread.

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by MrTechCenter

But there are plenty of teams with far more "entries" than the teams that participated at last year's championships yet these teams still get to go while others have to wait and see. It doesn't make much sense to me. Unless, these teams that attended last year have qualified in some other way that has not yet been reflected on this thread.

It's The Hunger Games and those lucky teams are Prim.

[alephzer0]

Originally Posted by Gregor

It's The Hunger Games and those lucky teams are Prim.

Can I volunteer as tribute?

[Team3844]

Have all of the wait list invites been sent?

[Jacob Paikoff]

Originally Posted by Team3844

Have all of the wait list invites been sent?

Most likely yes. As of right now there are 476 teams registered for Champs with only MSC, MAR Champs, and NE Champs next week. Those 3 events will qualify 128 teams putting the total at 604 teams.

There may be one or two spots that open up if teams can't pay but I wouldn't count on it.

[Mastonevich]

Originally Posted by Jacob Paikoff

Most likely yes. As of right now there are 476 teams registered for Champs with only MSC, MAR Champs, and NE Champs next week. Those 3 events will qualify 128 teams putting the total at 604 teams.

There may be one or two spots that open up if teams can't pay but I wouldn't count on it.

Couldn't some of those 128 spots could already have an invite from HOF, last years winners, teams getting tickets from regionals?

It does appear they are getting down toward the end. That seems reasonable as we are about 14 days out.

[MrTechCenter]

Originally Posted by Mastonevich

Couldn't some of those 128 spots could already have an invite from HOF, last years winners, teams getting tickets from regionals?

It does appear they are getting down toward the end. That seems reasonable as we are about 14 days out.

They did great with championship slot allocation this year, mostly because of the expansion. Previously, FIRST would be dishing-out waitlist invites mere days before Champs.

[Anthony Galea]

Originally Posted by Mastonevich

Couldn't some of those 128 spots could already have an invite from HOF, last years winners, teams getting tickets from regionals?

I do know that 216 got a wild card spot from WEGLR, which takes one of Michigan's spots away.

[Steven Donow]

Originally Posted by Mastonevich

Couldn't some of those 128 spots could already have an invite from HOF, last years winners, teams getting tickets from regionals?

It does appear they are getting down toward the end. That seems reasonable as we are about 14 days out.

Yup. There are at few off the top of my head:

125 (SoFlo Chairman's)
195 (NYTV Winners)
1923 (NYTV EI)
4575 (Queen City Winners)
2590 (Montreal Winners)

Add in HoF/O&S teams that could get spots and there will probably be a few more slots opening up eventually.

[Link07]

Originally Posted by Steven Donow

Yup. There are at few off the top of my head:

125 (SoFlo Chairman's)
195 (NYTV Winners)
1923 (NYTV EI)
4575 (Queen City Winners)
2590 (Montreal Winners)

Add in HoF/O&S teams that could get spots and there will probably be a few more slots opening up eventually.

2016 (South Florida EI) is the other one from MAR.

[Mastonevich]

I am going to choose to keep my fingers crossed in effort to get an invite then.

[Rick]

Originally Posted by Steven Donow

Yup. There are at few off the top of my head:

125 (SoFlo Chairman's)
195 (NYTV Winners)
1923 (NYTV EI)
4575 (Queen City Winners)
2590 (Montreal Winners)

Add in HoF/O&S teams that could get spots and there will probably be a few more slots opening up eventually.

We (78) got in off the waitlist. Not sure how that effects New England spots.

[tindleroot]

Originally Posted by Ricksta

We (78) got in off the waitlist. Not sure how that effects New England spots.

I believe it gives New England another slot for a team to go to Champs. If your team doesn't qualify through district, you get the slot. If you do qualify through district, the next highest ranked district team gets the spot.

The same thing happened in Indiana, since teams 135 and 829 both got waitlist spots at Champs. We (135) qualified via district, so the next highest ranked team (1741) got the "waitlist" spot. 829 maintained their "waitlist" spot.