Human Player Feats

[Levi Madden]

I heard of a noodle land in a recycle bin on the step. I saw at the buckeye regional, a noodle hit the projector that was probably 40 feet in the air. I personally can feed all 30 human player totes in the 2 minute 15 second teleop. although I never had a chance to do it in a match, only in the shop, We had a match in which we gave another team 6 totes and I had 30 seconds remaining after my 24 totes. Due to the design of our robot, we didn't have driver try-outs, we had human player try-outs. you can see why in these 2 matches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y2KlVI9QOQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb3_xumiBRA

[GreyingJay]

Originally Posted by GeeTwo

I think this qualifies:

Is that... a net???

[Siri]

At Upper Darby, an HP landed a noodle on top of a scored 6-stack Can. Of course, the noodle was Red and the stack was Blue, but it was still pretty incredible.

[GeeTwo]

Originally Posted by GreyingJay

Is that... a net???

Yes, a cheesecake net from team 179, Children of the Swamp, for their alliance partner 5469, Flare. here's a picture of it during setup. They only deployed it during Semifinals 2 against us (did not use it in SF3 or SF5).

I suspect it was because, as LandonH said:

Originally Posted by Landonh12

3937, 3039, and 3946, y'all's litter was crazy.

As you can see from the still, this noodle cleared the net. The whole video is here. That still was from about 1:03. There's another noodle that clears it even higher about 1:49.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Siri

At Upper Darby, an HP landed a noodle on top of a scored 6-stack Can. Of course, the noodle was Red and the stack was Blue, but it was still pretty incredible.

Still counts if there isn't another noodle on there.

Actually, exact same situation happened in Ventura. Blue had a stack--I forget whether it was 5 or 6 high--with a noodle. Red scored a landing on the can.

[Jon Stratis]

At North Star today, we had a noodle sail across the field, over the opposite alliance station wall, and drop down right between an opposing drivers arms as he was holding the controls. I really never expected noodles to go that far!. I'm not sure which team did it, but it was impressive!

[cjster]

I don't know how this happened, but I saw a noodle go into the stands and hit someone in the head. It was rather hilarious.

[Siri]

Originally Posted by EricH

Still counts if there isn't another noodle on there

Not quite true: there's actually nothing in the rules that tells you which one to score as Can processed. (There was in fact a blue litter there.) We ended up scoring both: Red as unprocessed and Blue as Can, but from a rules perspective Red as Can and Blue as nothing is just as valid. I'm waiting for Red to throw one on a scored Blue Can and then Blue to throw one there. That'll be fun.

[Racer26]

Originally Posted by Siri

Not quite true: there's actually nothing in the rules that tells you which one to score as Can processed. (There was in fact a blue litter there.) We ended up scoring both: Red as unprocessed and Blue as Can, but from a rules perspective Red as Can and Blue as nothing is just as valid. I'm waiting for Red to throw one on a scored Blue Can and then Blue to throw one there. That'll be fun.

I was under the impression that the intent was for a RED banded LITTER on the BLUE side of the field, it scores 4 points for RED if unprocessed, 1 point for BLUE if in the BLUE LANDFILL and 6 points for BLUE if in or on a RECYCLING CONTAINER scored atop TOTES on a BLUE SCORING PLATFORM.

Thus, I would think that a RED HUMAN PLAYER throwing a LITTER and having it land atop a SCORED RECYCLING CONTAINER on the BLUE side of the field would score 6 points for BLUE with that action.

Further, I would think that if there were already a noodle there, it ought not to score 6 points (per the one-noodle-per-RC rule), but I would argue its not unprocessed either so it shouldn't score 4 points for the opposing alliance.

[Siri]

Originally Posted by Racer26

I was under the impression that the intent was for a RED banded LITTER on the BLUE side of the field, it scores 4 points for RED if unprocessed, 1 point for BLUE if in the BLUE LANDFILL and 6 points for BLUE if in or on a RECYCLING CONTAINER scored atop TOTES on a BLUE SCORING PLATFORM.

Thus, I would think that a RED HUMAN PLAYER throwing a LITTER and having it land atop a SCORED RECYCLING CONTAINER on the BLUE side of the field would score 6 points for BLUE with that action.

True. (Additions: if not otherwise scored; fully within the landfill; fully supported by scored Can and one scored per Can.) And this is not just intent, this is the manual verbatim.

Originally Posted by Racer26

Further, I would think that if there were already a noodle there, it ought not to score 6 points (per the one-noodle-per-RC rule), but I would argue its not unprocessed either so it shouldn't score 4 points for the opposing alliance.

Not as written.
"A maximum of one (1) LITTER will be scored per RECYCLING CONTAINER."
"ALLIANCES earn an UNPROCESSED LITTER Bonus for each LITTER that is fully contained by the opposite side of the FIELD, marked in their ALLIANCE’S color, and not scored in the LANDFILL ZONE or scored in a RECYCLING CONTAINER."

As written, there is no way to "excuse" an Red litter fully contained by Blue side that is neither scored in the Can nor scored in the Landfill. There is no provision by which you can half-score a litter such that it's scored per Paragraph 3 (Blue Can thus not Red Unprocessed) but not scored per Paragraph 1 (Blue Can +6). Unprocessed is anything that's not scored; not anything that would not otherwise be scored.


That said, there's still nothing that legally tells you which one to score.

[Racer26]

Originally Posted by Siri

That said, there's still nothing that legally tells you which one to score.

Ah. I think I understand the problem.

If I scored the BLUE LITTER in the SCORED RC on a BLUE PLATFORM, then the RED LITTER thrown on it is UNPROCESSED LITTER because it isn't scored (1-LITTER per RC), but IS fully contained by the BLUE side of the field.

However, if I scored the RED LITTER on the SCORED RC on a BLUE PLATFORM, then the BLUE LITTER that was in the RC is BLUE UNPROCESSED LITTER on the BLUE side of the field, worth ZERO points.

I think a Q&A should clarify whether your own alliance's LITTER takes precedence for scoring over the opposing alliance.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Siri

Not quite true: there's actually nothing in the rules that tells you which one to score as Can processed. (There was in fact a blue litter there.) We ended up scoring both: Red as unprocessed and Blue as Can, but from a rules perspective Red as Can and Blue as nothing is just as valid. I'm waiting for Red to throw one on a scored Blue Can and then Blue to throw one there. That'll be fun.

What I was getting at was that if there wasn't another noodle on there, it was worth the 6 points. (The condition was unclear in the first post.)

And, as a matter of fact, the Ventura one was scored in exactly the same way. The blue-side refs consulted with the head ref on that one.

[evanperryg]

Originally Posted by Richard Wallace

Has anyone seen match in which an alliance went 10/10 throwing litter into the opposing side; i.e. 40 points on unprocessed litter alone? I saw one like that yesterday at St. Joseph. Not sure if it was all thrown by the same HP.

4143 did this multiple times at Midwest. They had many 40+ litter matches. It's impressive how much influence a good human player can have on scores throughout an entire event. I'd be surprised if we don't see multiple Einstein matches decided solely by litter.

[kathrynmariel]

I was at the Chesapeake Regional this past weekend and a human player managed to throw a piece of litter and it went into one of the recycling cans located on the step.
Also the number one ranked team was a team from Israel and a human player managed to throw a piece of litter into their robot making them unable to operate for the rest of the match.


Also side note my team has made bets with me on weather or not I can knock down a stack with a noodle.

[gp2013]

World high litter point score was posted this weekend at the Western Canada Regional by 2013's human player. The score was 463 points.