Michigan State Championship

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by JosephC

Can't wait to see all the great teams at MSC and my volunteer buddies! Hopefully Ed will be returning this year

Let's put up some scores and show the rest of the world what we got!

I am.

[nikeairmancurry]

After watching the PNW and Indiana District champs last weekend, I expect 80+ teams to average over 100 points per match and maybe even a few over 200..

Ed is right. Even matches on one field and odd on the other.

I also think there may be a surprise still be had.

[angelah]

Any more info for those of us trying to plan scouting on limited resources (I have six students left total once I take out the drive team and one pit person)? Estimated number of matches? Will the odd and even matches play simultaneously or one after another? Can you see both fields if you get a decent seat? etc....

And I agree, we are thankful here that there is no Chairman's booth. We weren't sure how we could staff it.

Oh, and does anyone know for sure if they are interviewing Dean's List semi-finalists again at States? I have heard yes and no.

[nikeairmancurry]

Originally Posted by angelah

Any more info for those of us trying to plan scouting on limited resources (I have six students left total once I take out the drive team and one pit person)? Estimated number of matches? Will the odd and even matches play simultaneously or one after another? Can you see both fields if you get a decent seat? etc....

And I agree, we are thankful here that there is no Chairman's booth. We weren't sure how we could staff it.

Oh, and does anyone know for sure if they are interviewing Dean's List semi-finalists again at States? I have heard yes and no.

102 Teams / 6 Teams per Match = 17

17 x 12 Matches = 204 Matches

Matches played one after another. I would suppose some seating will be good to see both fields.

My suggestion: Hook up with another team with scouting. I do know a few teams that are also doing this. Never hurts to ask for help.

[angelah]

Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry

102 Teams / 6 Teams per Match = 17

17 x 12 Matches = 204 Matches

Matches played one after another. I would suppose some seating will be good to see both fields.

My suggestion: Hook up with another team with scouting. I do know a few teams that are also doing this. Never hurts to ask for help.

Oh, wow, I had no idea it was still only 12 matches. That's good t o know. We haven't been to states in years.

Yeah, I'm thinking we need to find someone to work with.

[Joe Johnson]

Originally Posted by angelah

Oh, wow, I had no idea it was still only 12 matches. That's good t o know. We haven't been to states in years.

Yeah, I'm thinking we need to find someone to work with.

100 teams & 12 Matches, that is a pretty crummy ratio of over 8:1.

A typical District has a ratio of under 4:1. For this year's game, perhaps it isn't such a big deal but for typical years, I think this sorting would be pretty terrible.

Remember that one of the great thinks that going to 8 Divisions at the Worlds is that the number of teams per district dropped from 100 per division down to 75.

My two cents.

Dr. Joe J.

[Ed Law]

Originally Posted by angelah

Oh, wow, I had no idea it was still only 12 matches. That's good t o know. We haven't been to states in years.

Yeah, I'm thinking we need to find someone to work with.

Congratulations on another Dean's List semifinalist (for now) in the family. Hopefully she will follow her sister's footstep and go all the way.

We will be scouting both fields. If you need any data, we would be happy to share.

[orangelight]

I want to see how much teams have improved since their districts and what new things they will bring to the table come alliance selections.

[Hot_Copper_Frog]

Originally Posted by Christopher149

857 is excited to be attending, but I'm a little disappointed that our sister team 2586 might not have made the cutoff. There are also several well-known teams that I'm surprised won't be at MSC (like 74 Team CHAOS and 51 The Wings of Fire).

But I can't wait to head to Grand Rapids on Wednesday!

I'm definitely looking forward to catching up with 857 at MSC! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the Copper Bots as well. It would be great to see both Keweenaw teams in Grand Rapids.

[tindleroot]

Both Indiana and PNW Championships had roughly equal qualifying averages (though PNW had a larger amount of teams), but PNW had higher elims scores. I believe that this is because both districts had similar amounts of teams with a certain skill (aka the top 10% can score X, the next 10% can score Y, etc.) but PNW had the higher elims scores since there were more top-tier teams to choose from come alliance selections (77% of Indiana teams were in finals, while only 37.5% of PNW teams were in finals).

By this token, #1 seed in Michigan will be hovering around 170 average (probably higher since Michigan has some worldwide top tier teams - 1023 scored higher than this last weekend), and almost all of the teams will be over 100 average. The elims will be really high scores, though!

[GBK]

MSC is going to be a great time as always. Congratulations to all the teams that made it. 16 alliances in the playoff's is going to be crazy.
Cant wait to see and compete with all our friends from all over the state.

[Christopher149]

Originally Posted by Hot_Copper_Frog

I'm definitely looking forward to catching up with 857 at MSC! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the Copper Bots as well. It would be great to see both Keweenaw teams in Grand Rapids.

>both Keweenaw teams

But Megan, we also have a third team this year in Lake Linden-Hubbell (5486)! (hopefully we can keep the team this time , and not pull a 3771 or 4363)

[shewejff]

First of all, we're very excited about getting to states this year. I'm sure that it'll be a ton of fun.

Originally Posted by angelah

Any more info for those of us trying to plan scouting on limited resources (I have six students left total once I take out the drive team and one pit person)? Estimated number of matches? Will the odd and even matches play simultaneously or one after another? Can you see both fields if you get a decent seat? etc....

I'll second the request for more info about how the fields are set up. Can the "average" seat see both fields? If not, then even those of us with more students will need to tweak our scouting methodology.

Also, if you can't see both fields from a typical seat, then what are the teams in the stands going to do? Are the teams going to be moving from one side of the arena to the other to be able to watch their matches. "Hey everyone, our next match is odd, so let's get up and move to the other side of the arena."

[quattda]

Clarification about the Deltaplex. One of our mentors called this morning.

While they normally do not allow tailgating, they will be allowing the FRC Michigan Championship Event robotics teams to do so. Gail was informed of this morning's conversation and asked that I post this clarification on this thread.

The google doc should also be updated.

Let other attending teams know. When we read the document, it caused our team a bit of panic.

[Hot_Copper_Frog]

Originally Posted by Christopher149

>both Keweenaw teams

But Megan, we also have a third team this year in Lake Linden-Hubbell (5486)! (hopefully we can keep the team this time , and not pull a 3771 or 4363)

That's so exciting!! I'm excited to hear more about it this weekend.