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Re: USB ports going away during match

Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone!

We have several things to check. We have not been plugging in the DS laptop charger during matches, it's been running on battery all the time.

I don't have the laptop here, hopefully it made it home on the bus Saturday night, and I can check it in an hour or so when I drop off the robot at school.
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Re: USB ports going away during match

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We have not been plugging in the DS laptop charger during matches, it's been running on battery all the time.
Failing to take advantage of the provided power at the field is not a good idea. It's too easy for Windows to kick in power-saving features if you're not plugged in. And if you do successfully disable them all, you're going to run down the battery much faster than "normal".
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Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone!

We have several things to check. We have not been plugging in the DS laptop charger during matches, it's been running on battery all the time.

I don't have the laptop here, hopefully it made it home on the bus Saturday night, and I can check it in an hour or so when I drop off the robot at school.
Hi Jim,
Here is something that most likely was not the cause of the issues you were experiencing, but definitely should be considered when you are taking steps to make your DS 's performance stable and reliable.
As an FTAA twice this year, I saw several teams have issues if they had not "Locked" the location of their controllers in the DS software. When not locked, the controllers can show up in different order and locations in the DS. When your controls "go away" it is likely they will not return to where you want them if they are not locked. A locked device will always show up in the same position, regardless of which USB port it is plugged into, nor what order the device(s) are detected, as long as you are not using two identical devices.

Here are the details of the locking process from this document.

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Re-Arranging and Locking Devices
The 2015 Driver Station has the capability of "locking" a USB device into a specific slot. This is done automatically if the device is dragged to a new position and can also be triggered by double clicking on the device. "Locked" devices will show up with an underline under the device. A locked device will reserve it's slot even when the device is not connected to the computer (shown as grayed out and underlined). Devices can be unlocked (and unconnected devices removed) by double clicking on the entry.

Note: If you have two or more of the same device, they should maintain their position as long as all devices remain plugged into the computer in the same ports they were locked in. If you switch the ports of two identical devices the lock should follow the port, not the device. If you re-arrange the ports (take one device and plug it into a new port instead of swapping) the behavior is not determinate (the devices may swap slots). If you unplug one or more of the set of devices, the positions of the others may move, they should return to the proper locked slots when all devices are reconnected.

Example: The image above (see attachment) shows 4 devices:

A Locked "Logitech Attack 3" joystick. This device will stay in this position unless dragged somewhere else or unlocked
An unlocked "Logitech Extreme 3D" joystick
An unlocked "Gamepad F310 (Controller)" which is a Logitech F310 gamepad
A Locked, but disconnected "MadCatz GamePad (Controller)" which is a MadCatz Xbox 360 Controller
In this example, unplugging the Logitech Extreme 3D joystick will result in the F310 Gamepad moving up to slot 1. Plugging in the MadCatz Gamepad (even if the devices in Slots 1 and 2 are removed and those slots are empty) will result in it occupying Slot 3.
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Re: USB ports going away during match

Thanks, I think the devices were locked, because when the controller dropped out, it was still shown in the #1 slot in gray.
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Thanks, I think the devices were locked, because when the controller dropped out, it was still shown in the #1 slot in gray.
Excellent!
That confirms two things at least.
1) It was locked.
2) Winders no longer saw the device.

Now, what the root cause of it going away is still the main focus.
All the advice here should get you to a solid answer. From the timing of when and how the failures occurred, it doesn't sound like a physical problem like a flakey connection or wiring. At least not to me
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