Most in-demand robot type?

[IronicDeadBird]

Going with the robots body type being small. Been noticing a lot of robots with giant footprints out on the field stepping on some toes. Definitely going to say efficient at 3 stacks. I want to go out there and put a prediction down for noodle pickup mechanisms are going to become more popular as we go along and liter clean up might actually become a role on a team comp.

[barn34]

Originally Posted by EricLeifermann

I voted for landfill stacker though I would want them to have the ability to also grab RCs off the step in auto.

You called, Eric?

Unfortunately, we won't be able to make Wisconsin this year because of CIR also being week 4. Alas, looks like we'll just have to hook up in St. Louis this year. Best of luck, guys! We'll be rooting for you!

[EricLeifermann]

Originally Posted by barn34

You called, Eric?

Unfortunately, we won't be able to make Wisconsin this year because of CIR also being week 4. Alas, looks like we'll just have to hook up in St. Louis this year. Best of luck, guys! We'll be rooting for you!

Definitely wish we could play together this year. Maybe at champs, should we qualify.

Awesome job down in AR.

[CJ_Elliott]

Originally Posted by NHoffmann

Haha, I think that may be considered all-around. Just way better than most other all-arounds.

But guys.... 1114 can't do coop.

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by CJ_Elliott

But guys.... 1114 can't do coop.

They don't need to.

[The other Gabe]

I think that my team's type of robot (can burglar that works from landfill) is the most wanted, but I suppose that being ranked 17th and not being picked at the PNW district might say otherwise

From my experiences watching matches, my ideal alliance would look something like this:

- 1 robot with a ramp that runs a 3 tote auto and grabs a bin in the process, loads from ramp at a human player station, and makes 6 tall stacks with bins and litter on them by itself

- 1 robot with a fast 2 recycling container auto whose sole job after auto is to make full 6 stacks of totes using the landfill and the other human player station once the landfill is empty

- 1 robot with a fast 2 recycling container auto whose sole job after auto is to fill the 4 recycling containers gained from auto with litter and cap the stacks made by the robot that only stacks totes

I see this as the most effective way to utilize all three robots on an alliance without getting in the way of each other and accomplishing the most scoring objectives in the least amount of time. Ideally the ramp robot makes three full stacks and uses the three recycling containers in the staging area to cap them, the tote-stacking-only robot makes four full stacks, and the capping-bot uses the four recycling containers from the step (filled with noodles) to cap those four stacks made by the tote-stacking-only bot. 314 points.

What I like about this style of play is that you don't need an alliance of elite level robots to accomplish this. Most of the mid to top tier ramp bots should be able to get 3 capped stacks by champs. Most teams will be able to get fast center recycling container grabbers (maybe not the fastest, but fast will work for *most* teams). A robot dedicated just to stacking totes should be able to easily empty the landfill and then some (We mostly do this during our last two qualification matches at Ventura, and I would say that at that time we were performing at a completely reachable level to most teams attending championships), and most capping robots should be able to cap four stacks. This kind of strategy is completely viable for many alliances who push for it, and it doesn't even require any pro-level science.

[EricH]

I'd go 1114, 148, and any really fast canburglar that can fold up in a nice quiet corner (especially if it has a built-in ramp so they can feed out of the OTHER player station), OR flip the upside-down totes if it's got a clear-ish shot. Gotta keep 1114 busy somehow...

That is all.

[ThePancakeMan]

Throughout the competitions I have attended so far it seems most robots are able to efficiently make stacks of totes very fast. The issue comes when the robot needs to place the stack or add a can to their stack. Being able to have the utility of capping a 6 stacks for an alliance member as well as being able to get 2 of the cans of the step will surely make you a viable pick for finals.

[stuart2054]

It certainly depends on what compliments you need. We do a 28 point solo auto (when we can get the 3 bin) we almost always get the 20 point stack but sometimes miss the 3rd bin. We also use a ramp and stack at a human station and can do a couple of 6 point stacks reliably. Having said that we would be looking for another good human player stacker and landfill/canburgular auto machine or canburgular bin capper specialist.

[EricLeifermann]

What I'll be looking for at championships from 2826's perspective, seeing as we have the most consistent 28 point auto(27.6 avg auto score this past weekend).

1st round: 2 canburgler landfill specialist, who can make 3-4 stacks of 6 with the cans they stole with litter in said cans
2nd round: 2 canburgler who can manipulate cans and get litter in them and either set them down for others to stack or place on 6 tote stacks
3rd round: Robot that can potentially supplement any of the 3 robots should something happen and they need to be called in.

That would put the alliance score at 304(28+42*4+36*3) should everything go to plan. Potential for more should more stacks be created without cans and we start noodeling our RC's we stack with.

[evanperryg]

Originally Posted by CJ_Elliott

But guys.... 1114 can't do coop.

Many of the top-tier teams this year would rather complete another stack than waste the time driving to the step, dropping off the totes, and returning to their preferred loading location. The only way I think high-tier teams will be directly participating in co-op is by putting the stack together and passing it to an alliance partner to score.

[carpedav000]

Where does everyone stand with robots that can't stack very much, but can very effectively cap stacks?

[ThePancakeMan]

If they can cap a stack of six I see them as being valuable picks for an alliance. A bot that can quickly stack totes pared with a bot that just has to wait and cap off the stack seems to be a good alliance in my eyes. Bots that are good at getting tote stacks (from what I have seen) waste a ton of their time chasing cans around the field. If instead both bots can just focus on their own task they have the ability to complete 36/42 point stacks alot faster.

[Harman341]

The number 1 and 2 seeds at worlds will probably be able to make 3 stacks of 6,
but at least 2. It takes 7 RC's and 5 capped 6 stacks to win basically every match. 4 would win you the majority especially with a 28 point auto. The 1 seed really just needs to pick a robot that can make 2 capped stacks, or maybe even 1, The most important part is the 7 RC's. Competitions really haven't been that deep this year. So worlds will be the first time all 3 robots on the field will be able to make capped stacks 4+ high. The demand on stacking may not be that great.

That all just means RC grabber = desirable

Capping robots depend on the alliance. As an alliance captain I wouldn't be looking for a tote stacking container capping robot combo. However, if I saw a great RC grabber attached to a capper, a tote stacker would be a great 3rd pick, or vice versa.