2015 Waitlist Spots

[tindleroot]

Originally Posted by Ricksta

We (78) got in off the waitlist. Not sure how that effects New England spots.

I believe it gives New England another slot for a team to go to Champs. If your team doesn't qualify through district, you get the slot. If you do qualify through district, the next highest ranked district team gets the spot.

The same thing happened in Indiana, since teams 135 and 829 both got waitlist spots at Champs. We (135) qualified via district, so the next highest ranked team (1741) got the "waitlist" spot. 829 maintained their "waitlist" spot.

[Steven Donow]

Originally Posted by tindleroot

I believe it gives New England another slot for a team to go to Champs. If your team doesn't qualify through district, you get the slot. If you do qualify through district, the next highest ranked district team gets the spot.

It doesn't give a slot, it just doesn't take away a slot. And even if they win EI this weekend (which they're eligible for), it won't effect anything (other than them getting one of the two EI slots)

EDIT: Interesting. That does appear to be what happened.

[alephzer0]

Originally Posted by Steven Donow

It doesn't give a slot, it just doesn't take away a slot. And even if they win EI this weekend (which they're eligible for), it won't effect anything (other than them getting one of the two EI slots)

So if a team that qualifies off the wait list gets one of the point slots, that does not get passed on to the next-ranked team?

[Steven Donow]

Originally Posted by alephzer0

So if a team that qualifies off the wait list gets one of the point slots, that does not get passed on to the next-ranked team?

TIL that it does appear to get passed down, based off Indiana qualifications and assuming that these allocations didn't change for 600 teams, waitlist slots do get passed down in districts.

Based off Indiana points I'm guessing 447 and 2867 must have declined going to Champs?

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by Steven Donow

TIL that it does appear to get passed down, based off Indiana qualifications and assuming that these allocations didn't change for 600 teams, waitlist slots do get passed down in districts.

Based off Indiana points I'm guessing 447 and 2867 must have declined going to Champs?

Man I wish all this fine print was more explicitly written out somewhere...

[Nick Lawrence]

Originally Posted by Steven Donow

TIL that it does appear to get passed down, based off Indiana qualifications and assuming that these allocations didn't change for 600 teams, waitlist slots do get passed down in districts.

Based off Indiana points I'm guessing 447 and 2867 must have declined going to Champs?

Team 829 was offered a waitlist spot in about week 4, and 5403 won RAS. The last team invited on points was 1741.

-Nick

[Jacob Paikoff]

Originally Posted by Steven Donow

TIL that it does appear to get passed down, based off Indiana qualifications and assuming that these allocations didn't change for 600 teams, waitlist slots do get passed down in districts.

Based off Indiana points I'm guessing 447 and 2867 must have declined going to Champs?

447 and 2867 would be next in line if someone declined.

5403 was the rookie all-star winner and 829 got into Champs off the waitlist. Everyone above 447 qualified on points, or awards.

[Tartan47]

Originally Posted by Steven Donow

Based off Indiana points I'm guessing 447 and 2867 must have declined going to Champs?

I think the cutoff may have been at the top 9 teams. This is mostly speculation but it looks like:

1741 qualified because of 135 attending from the waitlist and opening an additional spot
5403 qualified from winning RAS at the District CMP
829 qualified from a waitlist spot

Edit: See above posts

[tindleroot]

Here are how all of the Indiana Teams got a spot:

Indiana was given 10 slots prior to the season's start. We also have a legacy team, plus 2 teams were granted spots via waitlist.

1. 234 qualified by winning State Championship
2. 1024 qualified by winning State Championship
3. 1501 qualified by winning State EI
4. 135 qualified by winning State Chairman's (thus opening their waitlist spot to the next team)
5. 5188 qualified by points (highest ranked team that did not win an advancing award)
6. 71 qualified by points
7. 5402 qualified by points
8. 1720 qualified by points
9. 292 qualified by winning State Championship
10. 1741 qualified by points due to the "extra" spot from waitlist
11. 5403 qualified by winning State RAS
12. 829 had a waitlist spot
13. 45 is a legacy team

Thus, 10 slots + 1 legacy + 2 in-state teams with waitlist spots = 13 Indiana District teams attending worlds.

[Alan Anderson]

My description is a little inaccurate. Points don't tell the whole story, and I wasn't considering the "automatic qualifier" status of certain awards when I wrote this.

Originally Posted by Hallry

Man I wish all this fine print was more explicitly written out somewhere...

There were supposed to be ten Indiana teams qualifying from the District Championship (plus the pre-qualified TechnoKats). Two had already accepted a wait list invitation, but also were in the top ten by qualifying points. I was certain that those two wait list slots would simply go back to the pool and end up providing invitations to other teams.

I was wrong. Those two teams were taken separately, and the top ten without them were announced as having qualified by points.

If it weren't for the fact that the list of qualifying Indiana teams was read to the crowd by Frank Merrick himself, I would have considered it a mistake to have handled things that way.

[Mastonevich]

That does not bode well for anyone still hoping to get in.

Currently down 6 spots to 468. I assume some declined?

[lynca]

Team list is now at 499 teams. They must have just sent out a few more waitlist invites.

[Mastonevich]

I stand corrected, wow I must have posted that right before they changed it.

499 it is.

Hopes were up for a moment.....

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

I was wrong. Those two teams were taken separately, and the top ten without them were announced as having qualified by points.

If it weren't for the fact that the list of qualifying Indiana teams was read to the crowd by Frank Merrick himself, I would have considered it a mistake to have handled things that way.

Well, when in doubt, ask Frank. I just sent an email to goodfrcquestion@usfirst.org asking Frank to clarify the waitlist spot and district point slot allocation process fully, and hopefully before the FiM, MAR, and NEFIRST District Championships this weekend. What seemed to have happened at Indiana this weekend was the opposite of what almost anyone expected, and there doesn't seem to be any official writing on the process either. Hopefully Frank and the FRC Staff will be aware of this confusion and will be able to clarify the process in an FRC Blog post in the next couple of days.

[Team3844]

We received an invite. I'm leaving it to the team to decide tonight. We can make 2 stacks of 6 from the feeder station. We didn't show that at our regional due to my bad coaching. We can't knock the top off of the scores but letting the team experience the Championship event will help the team grow. You never know we may get good alliances and do pretty well.