Future First Championship News

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Wetzel

If you can explain how hosting two events with more teams will make more money, I'm interested.

Pretty simple... I'm sure FIRST profited from Champs last year, at 400 teams. Run a second version of Champs and you're profiting a second time.

[ehochstein]

Originally Posted by Cory

Pretty simple... I'm sure FIRST profited from Champs last year, at 400 teams. Run a second version of Champs and you're profiting a second time.

Because a non-profit, profits? Any money that goes into FIRST only benefits FIRST teams and makes the program better. I don't see any issue with FIRST getting more money, they are very transparent in what it is used for.

[Boltman]

Originally Posted by ehochstein

Because a non-profit, profits? Any money that goes into FIRST only benefits FIRST teams and makes the program better. I don't see any issue with FIRST getting more money, they are very transparent in what it is used for.

So you see no issue with providing two diluted events as long as FIRST makes more money??

Its ridiculous the amount of money the average first team needs to raise to go to more than one event including a new diluted championship. Regardless of what the non-profit does with it. There's common sense.

Lower costs if they go this route...yet we all know that will not happen. Someone gets that money sure isn't FRC teams.

[cgmv123]

Originally Posted by ehochstein

they are very transparent in what it is used for.

They could be way better about disclosing expenses.

[Wetzel]

Originally Posted by Cory

Pretty simple... I'm sure FIRST profited from Champs last year, at 400 teams. Run a second version of Champs and you're profiting a second time.

I was under the impression that they didn't, but I'm running from anecdotes and conversations rather than hard data.

[Munchskull]

Can we start a petition against this?

[dodar]

Originally Posted by Munchskull

Can we start a petition against this?

Thats what this thread is.

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by Munchskull

Can we start a petition against this?

Originally Posted by dodar

Thats what this thread is.

Has there been a single positive post about this change yet in this thread?

[dodar]

Originally Posted by Hallry

Has there been a single positive post about this change yet in this thread?

Ive seen all negative, some neutral, but not a single positive post; and thats counting as this is the 88th post.

[jman4747]

Noooooo! Atlanta mayor/GA governor why? Fingers crossed for 2019

[Pauline Tasci]

I love how all of us came together and are trashing how bad this decision actually is.
Hopefully, FIRST realizes the same.

[MrRoboSteve]

There you go.

Houston == South Super Regional
Detroit == North Super Regional

Once you have a big enough volunteer base, FRC champs returns.

I'm open to hearing from the naysayers on the thread about alternate approaches to implementing super regionals, that directly address constraints on event volunteer growth, the fuel that FIRST events run on.

I think this is exactly the right time to be announcing this. They want it out there prior to Champs so that they can get feedback and talk to the rationale behind the change. If they were really trying to hide the ball, this would come out at 8am on April 26, or they'd announce it at Kickoff.

[ehochstein]

Originally Posted by MrRoboSteve

I think this is exactly the right time to be announcing this. They want it out there prior to Champs so that they can get feedback and talk to the rationale behind the change. If they were really trying to hide the ball, this would come out at 8am on April 26, or they'd announce it at Kickoff.

Exactly, this will allow for FIRST to come up with responses to our questions and concerns. They will hopefully be able to address them two weeks from now during the FIRST Opening and Closing Ceremonies.

What are our constructive criticisms? How would we fix the system by 2017?

[JohnSchneider]

Originally Posted by ehochstein

What are our constructive criticisms? How would we fix the system by 2017?

Every region gets districts... place some flex regionals in low population areas If needed. Progress teams to Champs from district championships. Low level teams get the "champ experience" at the district champs. High level teams still get to compete for a world title. Everyone wins.

[arizonafoxx]

Add me to the list of people that don't like this idea. Why North and South? I could maybe see East and West but not North and South. It is the same cost for our team to travel to Huston or Detroit or St Louis. So we are not saving any money.

IRI Time to step up your event. You will need to become bigger and better so you can host the true World Champions and see who comes out winner. Who's ready for a multiple field IRI?