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Re: Teams Capable of 3+ Full Stacks

It was a real pleasure to be field reset at NE Champs on Saturday. Watching 1519, 195, 2170 & more. The one to watch is clearly 195. I have been watching them all season. They are far better than 1519.They CONSISTANTLY place at least 4 6-stacks with RC & noodles. They will only be better in STL. I predict 5-6 full stacks w/RC & noodles. Their HP is quick & accurate. Prediction; they WILL win their division & go on to Einstein. They WILL be at least finalists.
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I predict 5-6 full stacks w/RC & noodles.They WILL be at least finalists.
With only 30 totes behind the glass only 5 six stacks are possible from the HP Station.

An aside who's been able to do 4 capped 5/6 stacks in a single match? I know 1114 and 254 have.
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Re: Teams Capable of 3+ Full Stacks

Also since when has 3683 (Team Dave) been working from the HP station. Maybe I missed it at Windsor but I thought they were a Landfill bot.
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Re: Teams Capable of 3+ Full Stacks

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Also since when has 3683 (Team Dave) been working from the HP station. Maybe I missed it at Windsor but I thought they were a Landfill bot.
We can operate out of the human player zone with help from our ramp, or from the landfill. We played about 50-50 at Windsor and Waterloo depending on the strength of our alliance. During the playoffs at Windsor we were purely landfill.
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Re: Teams Capable of 3+ Full Stacks

Pro-tip: you only need 36 point stacks to lock in the win. Making 4+ perfect stacks solo won't mean much in 2 weeks.
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Re: Teams Capable of 3+ Full Stacks

I'm told 3683 can only make 3 full stacks if they're running from the HP.
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Re: Teams Capable of 3+ Full Stacks

You are correct, 195 easily puts up 3+ capped six-stacks plus noodle EVERY match.

However, when positioned at driver station 2 or 3, we maximize even further having about 20 seconds left to continue to stack whatever totes remain.

Here is one match video I found with 15 seconds remaining after the 3rd stack is placed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLCX6vv33Gc

Our human player does not waste any time, her body movements have been carefully timed to maximize output. Practices 7 days a week like an athlete till she's exhausted.
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Re: Teams Capable of 3+ Full Stacks

Before people start making some hard predictions, I want to remind people that the cans are still the limiting resource on the field. If you can make 3+ stacks, that's great for quals, but how the divisions work out may decide matches if the fast can grabbers end up unevenly spread out across each division.

Tl;Dr cans still > everything
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Tl;Dr cans still > everything
That is assuming the two "best" can grabbers in the division pair up, which I think is more likely to not happen than happen. I predict most of the division final matches will be split on cans and thus stacking will win most divisions.

That being said, I expect the world champion alliance to come from the unlikely division where the two best can grabbers pair up. So, I do agree with the common belief that can grabbing will, in the end, be all the matters.
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That is assuming the two "best" can grabbers in the division pair up, which I think is more likely to not happen than happen. I predict most of the division final matches will be split on cans and thus stacking will win most divisions.

That being said, I expect the world champion alliance to come from the unlikely division where the two best can grabbers pair up. So, I do agree with the common belief that can grabbing will, in the end, be all the matters.
The weaker alliance wants a can battle, they don't want to split the cans, and the weaker alliance should be blue going into finals, thus they get to choose if they split the cans or go for the battle of the fastest.
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The weaker alliance wants a can battle, they don't want to split the cans, and the weaker alliance should be blue going into finals, thus they get to choose if they split the cans or go for the battle of the fastest.
Or choose which robot they want to tie up for quite a bit during the match.....

If the second pick (w/ cheesecaked grabbers) is able to tie up one of the top scorers on the other alliance, it can quickly become about more than just the cans.

That's one of the reasons we have 10lbs remaining.
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Why doesn't our team get the recognition we deserve..

We can do 3 capped stacks of 6 with noodles and if all goes well there is time to deploy a fourth uncapped stack. (Hasn't happened yet but we are hoping it will) We work entirely out of the HP Station and are a tethered robot.

We also are working out the bugs for our 20pt auton. We are still unsure or not if it will be done in time for champs. That being said, we will be working non-stop until it does get on fully working.
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Or choose which robot they want to tie up for quite a bit during the match.....

If the second pick (w/ cheesecaked grabbers) is able to tie up one of the top scorers on the other alliance, it can quickly become about more than just the cans.

That's one of the reasons we have 10lbs remaining.
you guys are not going to be a second pick
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Pro-tip: you only need 36 point stacks to lock in the win. Making 4+ perfect stacks solo won't mean much in 2 weeks.
Why? The cans are valuable because they essentially triple the stack points (plus noodle). If you use one less tote in stacks of 5, wouldn't that mean you have to use three extra totes per capped stack of 5 to make up the difference with capped stacks of 6 once the cans are out?
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Stacks Size Teams Performance Type Division
3 6 68 Powerhouse Feeder Archimedes
3 6 314 Powerhouse Feeder Archimedes
3 6 1023 Powerhouse Feeder Archimedes
3 6 1640 Powerhouse Feeder Archimedes
3 6 2338 Powerhouse Feeder Archimedes
3 6 254 Powerhouse Landfill Carson
3 6 1325 Powerhouse Feeder Carson
3 6 4488 Powerhouse Feeder Carson
3 6 4587 Powerhouse Feeder Carson
3 5 1296 Powerhouse Feeder Carson
3 6 368 Powerhouse Landfill Carver
3 6 971 Powerhouse Feeder Carver
3 6 148 Powerhouse Feeder Curie
3 6 1114 Powerhouse Landfill Curie
3 5 3683 Powerhouse Feeder Curie
3 6 1619 Powerhouse Feeder Galileo
3 6 2056 Powerhouse Landfill Galileo
3 6 33 Powerhouse Landfill Hopper
3 6 987 Powerhouse Landfill Hopper
3 6 2590 Powerhouse Feeder Hopper
3 6 2826 Powerhouse Feeder Hopper
3 5 125 Powerhouse Feeder Hopper
3 5 548 Powerhouse Feeder Hopper
3 6 118 Powerhouse Landfill Newton
3 6 195 Powerhouse Feeder Newton
3 6 955 Powerhouse Feeder Newton
3 6 1671 Powerhouse Feeder Newton
3 5 1678 Powerhouse Feeder Newton
3 6 624 Powerhouse Feeder Tesla
3 6 1806 Powerhouse Feeder Tesla
3 6 2122 Powerhouse Feeder Tesla
3 6 2170 Powerhouse Feeder Tesla
3 6 3476 Powerhouse Feeder Tesla
3 6 3824 Powerhouse Feeder Tesla
3 5 1403 Powerhouse Feeder Tesla
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