Teams Capable of 3+ Full Stacks

[lynca]

Landfill (3 6-stacks) + 20 pt auton:
33
118
254
987
1114
2056

It will be interesting to see how these teams are divided into divisions.
3 6-stacks + 20 pt auto from the landfill will be huge to posting 240+ scores in eliminations.

[SoccerTaco]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

Stacks of 6:
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Hi Kevin,

3824 has put up 3 stacks of 6. We noodled 2 of the 3 ourselves, our alliance partner 3140 was kind enough to noodle the third for us. Does that count for your list?

Here is the video - 3824 is on the blue alliance, top right of the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TELqGM6DkIU&app=desktop

Thanks,
Steve

[Kevin Leonard]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

Stacks of 6:
33
67
68
118
148
195
254
314
368
624
955
971
987
1023
1114
1325
1403
1619
1640
1671
1806
2056
2122
2170
2338
2590
2826 (Gregor is annoyed you don't noodle your stacks)
3476
4488
4587

Stacks of 5:
548
1296
1678
3683

Split into two by request
Continuously updating

Stacks of 6:
33
68
118
148
195
254
314
368
624
955
971
987
1023
1114
1325
1619
1640
1671
1806
2056
2122
2170
2338
2590
2826 (Gregor is annoyed you don't noodle your stacks)
3476
3824
4488
4587

Stacks of 5:
125
548
1296
1403
1678
3683

[StAxis]

So with this list, and I imagine there will be lots more at champs that aren't accounted for here, we're looking at the top 3 alliances likely being able to do 6-7 full stacks. Maybe even the 4th alliance.

Can wars are going to be huge in semis and beyond. I'm curious if any stack and cap separately alliances will be able to top any of the cap and stack alone alliances.

[RonnieS]

Originally Posted by StAxis

So with this list, and I imagine there will be lots more at champs that aren't accounted for here, we're looking at the top 3 alliances likely being able to do 6-7 full stacks. Maybe even the 4th alliance.

Can wars are going to be huge in semis and beyond. I'm curious if any stack and cap separately alliances will be able to top any of the cap and stack alone alliances.

Watch MSC Finals, 3098 and 27 had a pretty good combo going, at worlds such a combo with a stronger single scoring bot would be a lethal.

Example: Captain can put up 3 solo stacks and has fast can grabbers, then picks a team like 27 and their last pick they get a pure tote scorer that maybe is an auto juggernaut. I think you might see this become more of a possibility due to the large number of auto can burglars we will see.

-Ronnie

[Brandon Holley]

We (125) were able to put up 3x capped 5s numerous times throughout the competition season.

Brando

[mott]

In the interest of advanced scouting, it would be awesome to see this list enhanced with the following:

Does this team run a 20pt auton?
Does this team Grab Step RCs during auton? If so, how many?


Our findings are that most of these 3+ stack landfill bots are the best 20pt auton bots but if you don't run the 20pt auton, you really need to be a proficient (if not "world-class") RC grabber to be a high seed/high seed 1st pick.

[M1KRONAUT]

I would be very surprised if 3130 can't do this, but I haven't seen it. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

[JABot67]

Originally Posted by mott

In the interest of advanced scouting, it would be awesome to see this list enhanced with the following:

Does this team run a 20pt auton?
Does this team Grab Step RCs during auton? If so, how many?


Our findings are that most of these 3+ stack landfill bots are the best 20pt auton bots but if you don't run the 20pt auton, you really need to be a proficient (if not "world-class") RC grabber to be a high seed/high seed 1st pick.

I would imagine that reliability is also an issue. If a robot can only do 3 fully capped stacks in the fairest of weather, but normally only makes one or two stacks, it could easily be lower on the list than another robot that can do 2 fully capped stacks but can do something special like use cans on their sides (like 1983 or 67, who have to my knowledge have never made 3 stacks).

[saikiranra]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

2826 (Gregor is annoyed you don't noodle your stacks)

To be fair, that is his constant state

[Pouncing Zebra]

Expect it from team 2826 Wave Robotics at Champs http://youtu.be/NVxWY06J2XU

[Pouncing Zebra]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

Stacks of 6:
33
67
68
118
148
195
254
314
368
624
955
971
987
1023
1114
1325
1403
1619
1640
1671
1806
2056
2122
2170
2338
2590
2826 (Gregor is annoyed you don't noodle your stacks)
3476
4488
4587

Stacks of 5:
548
1296
1678
3683

Expect Noodles from us

[jajabinx124]

Originally Posted by M1KRONAUT

I would be very surprised if 3130 can't do this, but I haven't seen it. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Of all the matches I've seen of them I don't think so, but the reason they couldn't at North star(Or at least in eliminations) is because 2826 takes possession of 3 RC's after their auto(Which they use later on). 3130 was forced to grab 2 RC's off the STEP with their can grabber(Which seems to be limited from only getting 2 center cans of the STEP because of their can grabber design) and then they create 2 capped 6 stacks.

I would certainly expect 3130 at champs to be capable of doing 3 capped 6 stacks though even if they haven't done it already. They have had a solid year!

[The other Gabe]

Originally Posted by Dunngeon

Or choose which robot they want to tie up for quite a bit during the match.....

If the second pick (w/ cheesecaked grabbers) is able to tie up one of the top scorers on the other alliance, it can quickly become about more than just the cans.

That's one of the reasons we have 10lbs remaining.

you guys are not going to be a second pick

[The other Gabe]

Originally Posted by JABot67

(like 1983 or 67, who have to my knowledge have never made 3 stacks).

1983 has not yet shown the speed to do much more than 2 6 stacks, but has one of the fastest Canburglars (for 1 can) and can deal with cans on their sides