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Re: Successful Team Ups By State

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The gap between 1114/2056 and everyone else.

Most surprising: 111, 254 (3x)
2056 has only won 6 events without 1114...

I wonder if that affects their alliance selections at all?
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Re: Successful Team Ups By State

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2056 has only won 6 events without 1114...

I wonder if that affects their alliance selections at all?
They consistently pick the best team available to them in alliance selections. They have consistently been the top 2 robots in Canada.
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Re: Successful Team Ups By State

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2056 has only won 6 events without 1114...

I wonder if that affects their alliance selections at all?
Or, 1114 has only won 5 events without 2056. (while 2056 has existed) They are both phenomenal teams.
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Re: Successful Team Ups By State

We realized at our most recent district event that we have what might be a somewhat unusual history of "successful team ups" -- in our 11-year history, we have been on the winning alliance nine times. Accordingly, there are 18 alliance partners from those nine wins. What we think might be unique is that they are all different!

Winning alliances for 1519 in their first 11 years:

2006 Granite State Regional: 1276, 133
2010 Granite State Regional: 1073, 1058
2011 Granite State Regional: 175, 176
2012 North Carolina Regional: 1311, 2642
2013 North Carolina Regional: 435, 4828
2013 Archimedes Division: 33, 469
2015 Granite State District: 95, 1307
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Anybody else been a part of more winning alliances without any repeat alliance partners?
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Re: Successful Team Ups By State

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We realized at our most recent district event that we have what might be a somewhat unusual history of "successful team ups" -- in our 11-year history, we have been on the winning alliance nine times. Accordingly, there are 18 alliance partners from those nine wins. What we think might be unique is that they are all different!

Winning alliances for 1519 in their first 11 years:

2006 Granite State Regional: 1276, 133
2010 Granite State Regional: 1073, 1058
2011 Granite State Regional: 175, 176
2012 North Carolina Regional: 1311, 2642
2013 North Carolina Regional: 435, 4828
2013 Archimedes Division: 33, 469
2015 Granite State District: 95, 1307
2015 UMASS District: 230, 4908
2015 Northeastern University District: 125, 1786

Thanks to our many great alliance partners over the years!

Anybody else been a part of more winning alliances without any repeat alliance partners?
This is an interesting perspective... instead of noting you have favorite partners, you show your diversity! After working with you at UMASS-Dartmouth, I am not at all surprised by your success with varied alliance partners. You are a strong, professional team that is easy to work with as well as being on top of your game. Congrats on your successes over the years! Glad we had the opportunity to be part of it.
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Re: Successful Team Ups By State

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Winning alliances for 1519 in their first 11 years:

2006 Granite State Regional: 1276, 133
2010 Granite State Regional: 1073, 1058
2011 Granite State Regional: 175, 176
2012 North Carolina Regional: 1311, 2642
2013 North Carolina Regional: 435, 4828
2013 Archimedes Division: 33, 469
2015 Granite State District: 95, 1307
2015 UMASS District: 230, 4908
2015 Northeastern University District: 125, 1786
2015 NECMP: 195, 2067

You're running out of unique partners.

Also, you totally should have won RI in 2014. On many re-watchings on TBA, it's pretty clear that we only made it because your arm got damaged in F3 early on in the match. If you had been at full capacity for a few more seconds it would have been your match.
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Re: Successful Team Ups By State

The most successful team-up in Indy this year has definitely been 234 and 1024. They won 2 events in a row (Purdue district event and IndCmp).
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Re: Successful Team Ups By State

At the Lake Superior Regional 4818 and 93 did awesome together because 4818 could make 3-4 tote stacks and 93 could cap them. Comparatively to other teams at a national level, that's not the best, but it was for sure the best at Lake Superior.

Clarification - as far as I know, not a recurring thing, but they did awesome just at this regional so very well could become one.
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Re: Successful Team Ups By State

We've never won with this pairing, but 857 and 2586 have paired twice to be finalists (which is 857's best event finish).

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Re: Successful Team Ups By State

Not quite "Most successful Team ups" but more like "most repetitive opposition", team 135 and 67 competed against each other in the finals in 2005 TWICE (Buckeye Regional and Newton Division). In both, 135 was picked first by the 1 seed and 67 was picked first by the 2 seed, and HOT won both times. I know we also competed in the Curie Quarterfinals 2013. We have never been on an alliance with them, though.
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Re: Successful Team Ups By State

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Not quite "Most successful Team ups" but more like "most repetitive opposition", team 135 and 67 competed against each other in the finals in 2005 TWICE (Buckeye Regional and Newton Division). In both, 135 was picked first by the 1 seed and 67 was picked first by the 2 seed, and HOT won both times. I know we also competed in the Curie Quarterfinals 2013. We have never been on an alliance with them, though.
I think the metric would be biased to teams who win a large number of events, for example 254 (this is drawing from memory) has opposed a number of teams much more frequently than 135 v 67, like 1868 during SVR from like 2009-2014, or 1323 (I think we won each event 1323 attended last year, plus events other years). Or consider 1114 and 610, they've only paired up ONCE, but have gone against each other a ton.

Or look any team that wins events. For each event, they have to beat at least 9 teams (3 alliances * 3 rounds + backups). Since most events are geographically based, they draw from the same pool of teams year in and year out. If you win 4 district events over the years, 36 teams is bigger than a district event, and if it's the same event, you are almost guaranteed some overlap.
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1918 vs 2054
*caveat: I could have sworn they were together more (as in, at all), but it seems more to be a successful rivalry. So, not exactly what the thread was after...

2014:
2054 beats 1918 SF West MI

2013:
2054 beats 1918 F West MI
2054 beats 1918 SF MSC

2012:
2054 beats 1918 F West MI

2011:
1918 beats 2054 F West MI
2054 beats 1918 QF MSC

2010:
2054 beats 1918 F West MI

2009:
1918 beats 2054 QF Lansing
It is a successful rivalry. I am not sure what it does for them but I know we always see them at 2771's open house just before end of build and their machine and ideas usually lead to an improvement in our robot. Because our team numbers are close our pit is often next to theirs like it was at MSC. We seem to be destined to be rivals rather than alliance partners but they are good friends and if we have to lose it is not so bad when they are on the other alliance. Our team has a lot of respect for 1918, they are good people that build good robots and are not afraid to share their insights.
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Re: Successful Team Ups By State

Teams 364, 456, and 1927 made the finals and came extremely close to winning the Bayou Regional. We were all teams from Mississippi, with us being from Gulfport, 1927 from Biloxi, and 456 from Vicksburg.
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It is a successful rivalry. I am not sure what it does for them but I know we always see them at 2771's open house just before end of build and their machine and ideas usually lead to an improvement in our robot. Because our team numbers are close our pit is often next to theirs like it was at MSC. We seem to be destined to be rivals rather than alliance partners but they are good friends and if we have to lose it is not so bad when they are on the other alliance. Our team has a lot of respect for 1918, they are good people that build good robots and are not afraid to share their insights.
If it is a rivalry, it certainly isn't by choice. It just always seems to work out that we are on opposite ends of the field. The Tech Vikes are great friends of the NC Gears, and I expect it to stay that way. Eventually, fate will put us on the same side of the glass during playoffs.

PS: We did play & win together at the 2014 WMRI. 1918 won West MI in 2015, but never faced 2054 in playoffs.
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This is an interesting perspective... instead of noting you have favorite partners, you show your diversity! ... Congrats on your successes over the years! Glad we had the opportunity to be part of it.
MamaSpoldi, the pleasure was all ours to be allied with 230! The GaelHawks were fantastic to work with; great attitudes from everybody that we met on the team! We'd be honored to be allied with 230 again!

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Winning alliances for 1519 in their first 11 years:

2006 Granite State Regional: 1276, 133
2010 Granite State Regional: 1073, 1058
2011 Granite State Regional: 175, 176
2012 North Carolina Regional: 1311, 2642
2013 North Carolina Regional: 435, 4828
2013 Archimedes Division: 33, 469
2015 Granite State District: 95, 1307
2015 UMASS District: 230, 4908
2015 Northeastern University District: 125, 1786
2015 NECMP: 195, 2067

You're running out of unique partners.
Thanks for updating our list with our newest pair of alliance partners! It's kind of amazing we hadn't previously been with the CyberKnights or Apple Pi.

We'd love to be with a new pair of partners this weekend in St. Louis! (Repeats would be fine, though, too!)

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Also, you totally should have won RI in 2014. On many re-watchings on TBA, it's pretty clear that we only made it because your arm got damaged in F3 early on in the match. If you had been at full capacity for a few more seconds it would have been your match.
You would have to remind us about that. Our claw broke during autonomous when going back to pick up the 2nd ball - one more auto ball would have been enough.

However, our better robot this year is a direct result of our "finalist year" last year. I think last year's robot was actually one of our better ones, but we never won an event with it, even in the off-season. I think we had a total of 4 finalist awards with it.

As a result of wanting to do better, the students were highly motivated this year to build a more reliable robot! In some ways, coming in 2nd is more motivational than winning!
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