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Re: How many recycling containers are going to die this week?

Looking at the mechanisms for rapid tote-grabbing, I'd guess that there will be no fatally damaged cans all weekend. I also guess five fatally damaged lids before Einstein, and another five on Einstein.

There will be many more lids separated from the cans which can be restored to service with new tie wraps and perhaps a half second with a drill.

I also expect at least one "spectacular G18" where a robot is dragged mostly or completely across the step. This seems most likely to happen when two grabbers engage with each other rather than being transitive through an RC.
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Re: How many recycling containers are going to die this week?

Were there any recycling containers removed from play at champs? I don't remember seeing any.
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Re: How many recycling containers are going to die this week?

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Were there any recycling containers removed from play at champs? I don't remember seeing any.
I didn't notice any. They're Rubbermaid cans. They're supposed to take abuse from garbage truck which are far far more rough than any FIRST robot could ever hope to be.
The only time we lost one was at GTCR to a cleaner who wasn't paying attention and took it away. Other than that they were fine for the most part.
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Re: How many recycling containers are going to die this week?

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I didn't notice any. They're Rubbermaid cans. They're supposed to take abuse from garbage truck which are far far more rough than any FIRST robot could ever hope to be.
The only time we lost one was at GTCR to a cleaner who wasn't paying attention and took it away. Other than that they were fine for the most part.
Do you know if any lids were ripped off the can?
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Re: How many recycling containers are going to die this week?

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Do you know if any lids were ripped off the can?
If they didn't rip off on einstein, with all the abusive can burglars there, i doubt it...
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Re: How many recycling containers are going to die this week?

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I also expect at least one "spectacular G18" where a robot is dragged mostly or completely across the step. This seems most likely to happen when two grabbers engage with each other rather than being transitive through an RC.
We almost had this at Finals 2 on Einstein. If 118 hadn't let go...
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Re: How many recycling containers are going to die this week?

I don't expect any damage to the cans. I do expect damage to can burglars though, seeing as we have broken ours a few times.
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We almost had this at Finals 2 on Einstein. If 118 hadn't let go...
I do recall seeing one fairly tall robot whose top was pulled across the step, into the airspace over the opposite landfill. However, it appeared to be above the landfill totes and did not (I believe) result in a G18 violation.

Not only did the canburgular wars not quite reach the fever pitch I anticipated, I do not recall alliances going after the inverted totes or totes on the step in an effort to get those last few points, which I sort of expected at the division finals and on Einstein.
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Re: How many recycling containers are going to die this week?

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Not only did the canburgular wars not quite reach the fever pitch I anticipated, I do not recall alliances going after the inverted totes or totes on the step in an effort to get those last few points, which I sort of expected at the division finals and on Einstein.
I remember watching 2338 grab an inverted tote so they could use it to push the opposing pool noodles next to the step. A very smart move that helped them move on to the next round.
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Re: How many recycling containers are going to die this week?

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I also expect at least one "spectacular G18" where a robot is dragged mostly or completely across the step. This seems most likely to happen when two grabbers engage with each other rather than being transitive through an RC.
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I do recall seeing one fairly tall robot whose top was pulled across the step, into the airspace over the opposite landfill. However, it appeared to be above the landfill totes and did not (I believe) result in a G18 violation.
There was a case of entanglement during Finals 2 of the Hopper sub-division. The tug of war between 987 Highrollers & 1218 Vulcan Robotics begins around 0:40 and continues for over a minute. The red alliance received a red card for a G18 violation.
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