1114's HARPOONS

[dodar]

Originally Posted by Bennett548

Holy safety hazard batman, how did that get through safety inspection?

Those are any less safe than poles?

[JohnFogarty]

Totes safe....

[Lil' Lavery]

"4"

[MikLast]

im now waiting for when they harpoon another grabber, cant wait to see that call...

[asid61]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

"4"

They made 4 all at once. They're right next to each other.

[Kevin Sevcik]

Originally Posted by dodar

Those are any less safe than poles?

Poles are somewhat more constrained in their range of motion. Once those harpoons are free of the launchers, they're only constrained by their strings.

[dodar]

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik

Poles are somewhat more constrained in their range of motion. Once those harpoons are free of the launchers, they're only constrained by their strings.

Poles are constrained by their connection; the bolts are constrained by their connection. Both can become projectiles if the connection fails.

If a 1/8s bolt comes loose or a 1/8s pole comes loose, I doubt it'll really matter which one it is; both would be equally as dangerous. Maybe the pole more so just for the size of it.

[cxcad]

Will these interfere with 1114's landfill mining?

[Bennett548]

1114 is a class-act, so I don't doubt that it is safe. I'm actually wondering what safety measures are in place.

Also, I don't expect them to have to prove they are safe to me or CD, I'm just curious.

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by dodar

Poles are constrained by their connection; the bolts are constrained by their connection. Both can become projectiles if the connection fails.

If a 1/8s bolt comes loose or a 1/8s pole comes loose, I doubt it'll really matter which one it is; both would be equally as dangerous. Maybe the pole more so just for the size of it.

I was thinking about this with my students earlier, and there's a pretty substantial difference between the pole/hooks and these harpoons. While you're correct that a failure can cause the poles to become projectiles, the hooks are projectiles by default. It's not an issue if they hit their target (the hole in the cans), but it can be if they do not. The poles' motion is constrained if they miss the mark, but the harpoons might ricochet. Presumably 1114 took great care to align them to avoid the issue, but if there was a device that was faster is could potentially introduce a projectile with a lot of unconstrained energy.

[asid61]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

I was thinking about this with my students earlier, and there's a pretty substantial difference between the pole/hooks and these harpoons. While you're correct that a failure can cause the poles to become projectiles, the hooks are projectiles by default. It's not an issue if they hit their target (the hole in the cans), but it can be if they do not. The poles' motion is constrained if they miss the mark, but the harpoons might ricochet. Presumably 1114 took great care to align them to avoid the issue, but if there was a device that was faster is could potentially introduce a projectile with a lot of unconstrained energy.

I was actually surprsied it only came oaround this race. The arms race accelerated pretty slowly (thank goodness).

[BigJ]

As a home observer I'm more curious as to whether the harpoon platforms also winched the cans in, or if it was more of a "Noone uses these cans, you have to outstack us" nuclear option for finals?

[asid61]

Originally Posted by BigJ

As a home observer I'm more curious as to whether the harpoon platforms also winched the cans in, or if it was more of a "Noone uses these cans, you have to outstack us" nuclear option for finals?

We thought it was the latter but apprently there is a winch on them.

[Joe G.]

Originally Posted by BigJ

As a home observer I'm more curious as to whether the harpoon platforms also winched the cans in, or if it was more of a "Noone uses these cans, you have to outstack us" nuclear option for finals?

I didn't see 900 up close in its final form, but this was in 1114's pit Saturday morning, so I'm assuming some kind of winching was incorporated.

[Jon Stratis]

There was an incorporated winch... But no way to remove the harpoons from the cans that I could see, short of brute force. I'm pretty sure it was a purely defensive live-action designed to ensure the other alliance did not get the cans and had to stack perfectly.