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Unread 26-04-2015, 14:09
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Re: Einstein Can-Race Compilation Video

548 is proud to have had some canburglars on Einstein!
1711 developed their own version of the canburglars that we cheesecaked with them at MSC. 1089 had a set that 548 and 1023 helped them get going just before and during Einstein.

Unfortunately, there were electrical or programming issues with the set on 1089, so they weren't going full speed.

548 ourselves had an even faster set on our robot, but had some bad matches on Hopper and went out in the semis.

I think it would be really cool to have a canburglar drag-race off to the side of the practice area at IRI, with an ultra high-speed camera to catch the action and find out the fastest.
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548 is proud to have had some canburglars on Einstein!
1711 developed their own version of the canburglars that we cheesecaked with them at MSC. 1089 had a set that 548 and 1023 helped them get going just before and during Einstein.

Unfortunately, there were electrical or programming issues with the set on 1089, so they weren't going full speed.

548 ourselves had an even faster set on our robot, but had some bad matches on Hopper and went out in the semis.

I think it would be really cool to have a canburglar drag-race off to the side of the practice area at IRI, with an ultra high-speed camera to catch the action and find out the fastest.
Well thank you very much for 1711's canburglars!
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Re: Einstein Can-Race Compilation Video

One thing I also noticed about 1678's canburgler was that they had the robot driving forward even before the arms fell into the cans. I think this really helped them get the cans off the step and out of the way of the opposite bot, so that there wouldn't even have to be a tug of war had.
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Re: Einstein Can-Race Compilation Video

This video was great! Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Einstein Can-Race Compilation Video

We were hoping to get the opportunity to test ours against the best this weekend. Unfortunately, that opportunity will have to apparently wait until IRI.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=G3o_VpobYFs
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Re: Einstein Can-Race Compilation Video

Don't thank just us! The Raptors somehow built those in two weeks with no unbag time. It took us three to build our first set, and we had some unbag time.

I also forgot to say that team 67 had some canburglars that seem to have been partly inspired by 548's. At msc they used polycarbonate arms, but I hear that at World's they came over to the dark side and used carbon fiber.

I'm going to try to get the students to put together a whitepaper about how those canburglars were designed and built.
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Don't thank just us! The Raptors somehow built those in two weeks with no unbag time. It took us three to build our first set, and we had some unbag time.

I also forgot to say that team 67 had some canburglars that seem to have been partly inspired by 548's. At msc they used polycarbonate arms, but I hear that at World's they came over to the dark side and used carbon fiber.

I'm going to try to get the students to put together a whitepaper about how those canburglars were designed and built.
Great we're going to write a paper...
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Re: Einstein Can-Race Compilation Video

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I noticed that there were not any teams on Einstein that were featured MAINLY for their canburgling (e.g. 548, 3310, 503, etc.) While the canburglars on Einstein were lightning fast, they were not THE fastest compared to some of these other teams.

I think the reason this tends to happen is because many of the top seeds decided to pick the top teams for stacking ability in addition to canburgling, and teams like 118, 987, 1114, etc. had both fast burglars and superior stacking ability (548 does too). When our team was making our pick list Friday night, we decided to favor 68 just ahead of 503 since 68 could make more stacks in addition to their canburglar, even though 503's canburglar was proven and fast. I'm sure a lot of alliance captains without canburglars had similar discussions as well.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I noticed that there were not any teams on Einstein that were featured MAINLY for their canburgling (e.g. 548, 3310, 503, etc.) While the canburglars on Einstein were lightning fast, they were not THE fastest compared to some of these other teams.

I think the reason this tends to happen is because many of the top seeds decided to pick the top teams for stacking ability in addition to canburgling, and teams like 118, 987, 1114, etc. had both fast burglars and superior stacking ability (548 does too). When our team was making our pick list Friday night, we decided to favor 68 just ahead of 503 since 68 could make more stacks in addition to their canburglar, even though 503's canburglar was proven and fast. I'm sure a lot of alliance captains without canburglars had similar discussions as well.
1711's job on the 1325 alliance was to right containers and burgle cans. And if there was none of that, they'd pull totes 1 by 1 from the landfill

It wasn't a glamorous job, but it was better than 20 doing the same job for sure. Our canburglars were much slower, and much less consistent.
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Don't thank just us! The Raptors somehow built those in two weeks with no unbag time. It took us three to build our first set, and we had some unbag time.

I also forgot to say that team 67 had some canburglars that seem to have been partly inspired by 548's. At msc they used polycarbonate arms, but I hear that at World's they came over to the dark side and used carbon fiber.

I'm going to try to get the students to put together a whitepaper about how those canburglars were designed and built.
Yep, our's were inspired 100% by 548's design that we initally saw when we paired with them at Livonia. We started designing a set to be used at MSC (poly carb version) a couple days later. They were 0.5s to the can due to the flexibility of the poly. After that we re-designed with carbon fiber, testing last Monday for the first time. Our testing showed them to be no slower than 250ms and much more repeatable. We knew this would be pretty fast, but feared we might be designing for an old target based on discussions with others.

Unfortunately we did not design for the can battle stalemate very well. Due to the nature of having them as part of our transport configuration required us to be able to attach them on the field very quickly. We did not have a robust attachment stategy which ultimately resulted in our arms faliure in the division finals. If we would have made it to Einstein our arms probably would have been ripped off the robot after the first tie. Which seemed pretty inevitable since we were very close to the same speed as most of the teams out there.
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Unfortunately we did not design for the can battle stalemate very well. Due to the nature of having them as part of our transport configuration required us to be able to attach them on the field very quickly. We did not have a robust attachment stategy which ultimately resulted in our arms faliure in the division finals. If we would have made it to Einstein our arms probably would have been ripped off the robot after the first tie. Which seemed pretty inevitable since we were very close to the same speed as most of the teams out there.
Our end grabbers were about $1.50 worth of PVC held on with cotter pins. I can't find video yet, but on Archimedes QF6(?-our second match) and all three SF matches we got into some epic battles due to not wanting to back up and risk ruining a 20-point auton.

We got to the cans first, (maybe not against 1538, they were pretty fast) but pretty much let the other side catch up, then the fun began. We never lost a can that we hit, even in our first SF match where we didn't put the pins in. 15 feet of stretched surgical tubing later, we even ended up with that can. For about 30 seconds (x4), this game was as fun as any other.

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Re: Einstein Can-Race Compilation Video

When reading through this thread and understanding how 548 Robostangs inspired and facilitated so many competing teams in the Finals by openly sharing their grabber technology, one gets a glimpse of the true meaning of co-opertition.
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Don't thank just us! The Raptors somehow built those in two weeks with no unbag time. It took us three to build our first set, and we had some unbag time.

To be completely honest, even I was shocked that we had them built and working in time. It was a lot more late nights in the build room and CAD lab.

It wasn't easy, we had to change our A-frame to accommodate the double burglars and then add mounts onto our drive base (and hack away a but of aluminum).

I just wish that we had more time on the practice field. They were never running at full power (because we were never consistent that way) and it took us all of quals to even get them working decently. I was ecstatic when they finally started working well in Carson elims.


And while 548 wasn't on Einsteins, 4 of their canburglars were. How cool is that.
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I think it would be really cool to have a canburglar drag-race off to the side of the practice area at IRI, with an ultra high-speed camera to catch the action and find out the fastest.

We had the same thought. That might be more fun than the full event.
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