paper: 2015 IRI Rule Changes

[Duncan Macdonald]

Movable recycling containers and top robots aren't allowed to grab cans? Here comes the autonomous 6 stacks.

[waialua359]

Its too bad for teams like ours, who designed can grabbers in auto that grab the two center ones by moving back towards the step. Similar to that of Team 610. Understandable though.

[Maximillian]

2.3.2 RECYCLING CONTAINERS
There are up to fourteen (14) RECYCLING CONTAINERS on the FIELD at the start of the MATCH. There are four (4) on the STEP and one (1) in each STAGING ZONE. The RECYCLING CONTAINERS located on the STEP are distributed between TOTES as demonstrated in the Figure 2-19 below. Additionally, each ALLIANCE will be given two (2) RECYCLING CONTAINERS to place anywhere on their side of the FIELD, with the exception of the AUTO ZONE.

Do the 2 added recycling containers have to start the match contacting the field or can they be pre-loaded into robots?

[DohertyBilly]

Originally Posted by Maximillian

Do the 2 added recycling containers have to start the match contacting the field or can they be pre-loaded into robots?

Along the lines of this, do the bins have to be righted, or can they be on their side at the start of a match?

[Jean Tenca]

Once again, I look at the IRI rules for the game and find myself going "I wish the real game had these rules." I wish our team had the funds to apply and travel out there. IRI was one of our greatest experiences. Hopefully there will be good match videos to watch

[Bennett548]

Is contact with the cans on the step transitive through other game pieces?

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by Bennett548

Is contact with the cans on the step transitive through other game pieces?

I would wager that the IRI planning committee is going to make any attempt, in any way, to get the "off limits" containers illegal. I don't see a point in trying to be clever/cute here.

[Bennett548]

I agree, I want the rule to be clear so we can avoid another arms race.

[tindleroot]

Originally Posted by Bennett548

I agree, I want the rule to be clear so we can avoid another arms race.

Agreed. Sometimes you just have to lay out the rules to be clear of loopholes. But, in the spirit of the OFFSEASON event, which is for fun, and given the IRI committee stated that they intend to avoid an arms race, I sure hope no one tries to make an overpowered, unsafe canburglar just to compete at IRI.

[billylo]

We are sad to hear about IRI rule change. :-(

It's been a tough year for 610. Our 4-bin grabber approach was affected quite a bit by rule changes/Q&A clarifications on momentary contacts throughout the season.

I hope you enjoy 610's 4-bin rush one more time on video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_nV7Age3dk

[evanperryg]

Originally Posted by dodar

So they are adding totes to the alliance station, thus buffing corner loaders; but did nothing to change the upside down totes or the step totes in the landfill. That seems a like a bad change to not also add to the landfillers too.

Also, if I am reading the auto bin rules correctly, they just took all the fun out of the bin race. Now its just a track meet.

I think it'll also encourage teams to focus on making the rest of their robot better before IRI. I won't be surprised if we see a couple of teleop can battles when someone misses their auto; I found the teleop can wars much more exciting than a quarter second of flying sticks.

[mman1506]

Originally Posted by Thad House

They can't flip the totes though, at least not without breaking alot of robots. It would move the landfill out 2.2 inches from where it is now. That would break most can grabbers out there. The ones that move forward couldnt move far enough anymore, and the ones with the custom bottom geometry might hit the closer totes now that they are closer to the totes. Flipping the upside down totes has major issues.

What about only flipping the totes on the left side of the field?

[Abhishek R]

Originally Posted by mman1506

What about only flipping the totes on the left side of the field?

That would mess with some teams in teleop, however I do think if it was optional that would be helpful, on both sides.

[BJT]

I wonder how much time and effort spent on better canburglars they just saved everyone attending IRI and possibly other off season events?
However, I was kind of looking forward to someone figuring out how to teleport the cans off the step in the first couple milliseconds

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Abhishek R

That would mess with some teams in teleop, however I do think if it was optional that would be helpful, on both sides.

Having multiple landfill configurations depending on alliance preference would likely make match resets take significantly longer. I would avoid it from a scheduling standpoint.