2016 Football Game

[RedWing21]

With a lot of people missing the competition that everyone had in rebound rumble, I would be surprised if they didn't create a game that was orientated around creating a team versus team game.
There is no better way to have competition than to have it be sports related and with the NFL being a huge cooperation with lots of ways to influence the game through TV ads and support through Play 60...I would say Football is an amazing game for the upcoming 2016 season.

What do you guys think of a 2016 football game?

[MikLast]

not interconnected enough. needs more spook.


Seriously though, i dont think football would happen. too easy to figure out and i just dont see how that would work well.

[Travis Hoffman]

Hockey means only one thing....THE RETURN OF REGOLITH!

[Jay O'Donnell]

Soccer has already been done so I don't see why it would be done again.

[asid61]

Remember that thread a while back about breaking the world record for how fast a hockey puck could be shot with a robot?
Safety glasses aren't going to stop a puck moving at 120mph.
Same with baseball and softball.
Soccer already happened (2010).

So my vote is for football. I'm surprised we haven't seen that yet honestly.

[The_ShamWOW88]

I see footballs as a game-piece in the near future but not necessarily mimicking the sport exactly. Something like 2006 with different goal set-ups and using same material footballs and not spherical balls.

[Richard Wallace]

Poof Footballs would make excellent gamepieces, IF human players are NOT permitted to touch them.

[SenorZ]

Football! ...wait... american football?

J/k. Just think, we had a year without bumpers. Now we'll have bumpers AND helmets!!!

[kgzak]

Originally Posted by Richard Wallace

Poof Footballs would make excellent gamepieces, IF human players are NOT permitted to touch them.

It'd be cool if human players could touch them but you had to score on the same side of the field as your human player. That way the human player wasn't able to score. It be cool to see long distance reloading though.

Honestly, Soccer or hockey are the best sport to imitate with robots. No down time and a continuous match. A football only game doesn't seem like it would be a good game as footballs are very easy to make them go where you want. hockey would not use hockey pucks as they are very dangerous so the only thing I would think you could pull from hockey is the ice part, but because hockey players skate, the ice really isn't that big of an issue for them so really nothing can be incorporated that would make the game "obviously hockey." Football throwers already exist and would be easy to emulate. Accuracy of the shot wouldn't be hard as that's how footballs are designed. Soccer would be fun but as others have pointed out, it's been done before and unless they make it similar rules to Breakaway, where the ball can only go a little ways inside of the robot, then ball games are really over done. Most of them end up with people rebuilding older robots just slightly modified for the new game.

The best game would be something like this year where the game piece is weirder. Something of a shape we have never seen before that makes it hard to pickup and manipulate. Something like Tetras from before but different. Maybe something like a Penrose Triangle. These games may not be some of the most entertaining to watch but they are by far my favorite games.

[GeeTwo]

I'm trying to figure out what soccer (international football) means in terms of robots. In abstract, soccer is essentially the same as hockey or polo except that you don't use an implement or even your hands to manipulate the game piece. Would soccer mean that robots could not use any manipulators except drive wheels and the chassis? Sorry, but I'm not feelin' it.

American football - the down structure would be utterly unusable unless we had much longer matches. We would have to cut the number of matches down by a factor of ten - sort of like the difference between MLB/NBA and the NFL. And if you get rid of the down structure and other stuff that only makes sense because of it, you're pretty close to rugby - see next paragraph.

Hockey, that's just like Aerial Assist except that you can't actually "posess" the ball. AA was more like rugby than anything else - I even remember the announcer referring to a scrum on the red end of the field.

Baseball/softball - forget it. There were only a few dozen robots that caught the high lob in Aerial Assist - who (except the Cheezy Poofs) could make contact, much less a base hit?

Hockey's the only one that makes any sense, but I"m going to stick with my "many balls" theory and abstain.

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by GeeTwo

I'm trying to figure out what soccer (international football) means in terms of robots. In abstract, soccer is essentially the same as hockey or polo except that you don't use an implement or even your hands to manipulate the game piece. Would soccer mean that robots could not use any manipulators except drive wheels and the chassis? Sorry, but I'm not feelin' it.

See Breakaway, 2010's FRC game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEHAj3EmpMw

Balls were not allowed to enter a robot's frame by more than 3". Robots were not allowed to lift balls off the ground. Robots were now allowed to use mechanisms in motion (relative to the frame) to manipulate balls off the ground. Robots were not allowed to extend beyond their frame perimeter for more than a few seconds. Mechanisms were still used to manipulate balls, but they had to meet these requirements.

[carpedav000]

Would hockey involve the return of the Lunacy field?

[galewind]

being that superbowl 50 is next year, I wouldn't be surprised.

Come on now, don't tell me I'm the only one that predicted that this year's game would be football, named "FIRST Down"!

[The_ShamWOW88]

Originally Posted by Richard Wallace

Poof Footballs would make excellent gamepieces, IF human players are NOT permitted to touch them.

Very good point. If these were to be used in some fashion, the HPs should be given a unique task that doesn't involve throwing footballs.

However, to be honest, it would be interesting, if a projectile game, the HPs could only score them in the high goal (assuming it's about the size of the inside diameter of a tire) to simulate throwing a football at a tire swing in your backyard (only from your driver station, over the station wall, across the field). That wouldn't be that easy, even for a traditional Quarterback.

Besides, it doesn't mean they have to be full-size footballs either, FIRST could troll us with the mini-poof footballs that are all but impossible to throw like a traditional football.

Originally Posted by GeeTwo

American football - the down structure would be utterly unusable unless we had much longer matches. We would have to cut the number of matches down by a factor of ten - sort of like the difference between MLB/NBA and the NFL. And if you get rid of the down structure and other stuff that only makes sense because of it, you're pretty close to rugby - see next paragraph.

As I said, I think they could incorporate the football as a game-piece but not entirely the same rules as American football. I like your idea of Rugby but I would argue that 2014 morphed into something closer to Rugby by the end, what with all the defense being played.

I could almost see having multiple goalposts and having to "kick" the footballs through them to score varied number of points. Similar to field-goals in American football or "drop-goal" in Rugby. Not sure how they would implement multipliers or an end-game but it's a thought.

[carpedav000]

There could be a way to include the down system in endgame. In the last 15 seconds, robots can back up against their alliance wall and "stretch" across the field as far as possible.

3/4 across the field= FIRST down (hey, there's a catchy game name)

FIRST down= 30 points per robot