State Power Alliances 2015

[Bennett548]

I didn't watch much of 67 in St. Louis. If they were able to get reliability up then I would do 1023-548-67.

I might also consider 503 in the third position depending on the landscape of the event. They are the fastest canburglars in MI as far as I know, and if a choke hold strategy is viable then I would pick 1023-548-503.

[TJP123]

Originally Posted by Bennett548

I didn't watch much of 67 in St. Louis. If they were able to get reliability up then I would do 1023-548-67.

I might also consider 503 in the third position depending on the landscape of the event. They are the fastest canburglars in MI as far as I know, and if a choke hold strategy is viable then I would pick 1023-548-503.

You're being modest. Until unseated, the crown for fastest in MI goes to 548. The side-by-side in the qualifying match we played together at MICMP was a virtual tie, but you guys were in the hole just ahead of us.

[evanperryg]

Originally Posted by TJP123

You're being modest. Until unseated, the crown for fastest in MI goes to 548. The side-by-side in the qualifying match we played together at MICMP was a virtual tie, but you guys were in the hole just ahead of us.

Of course, you guys have the somewhat evil, extremely cool detaching hooks, which is a big bonus. Even if it partially caused our lowest scoring match of the season at the worst possible time, it was one of the coolest things I have seen this season.

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

From what I'm understanding of this conversation, when the vampires attack, I need to go to Connecticut.
Got it.

where did that FRC humor thread go? Cause this would be the only funny thing in it

I did an Illinois one earlier, but here's one for the Midwest (excluding MI)
2481: good can pullers, one of the best landfillers in the world. I haven't gotten to see their pullers myself, but I've heard a lot of really good things about them.
1756: good can pullers, can ramp load 3 6 stacks capped. They could also handle landfill, but both 2481 and 1756 would score the most points if 1756 stayed at their long ramp. Their ramp also folds up, so it won't be in the way of 2826's auto.
2826: by far the best auto in the world, possibly the best robot in the world. Nothing to explain here, they're incredible.

Every robot here is capable 3 6es capped, or more. Under IRI rules, a single alliance could have access to up to 9 cans, assuming the other alliance doesn't get theirs in auto, so there's potential for a ridiculous score. 2826 would have to be attached to 1756's ramp, but they showed off a tethered ramp in their pre-champs reveal, so I wouldn't be worried about a drop in performance. 1756 would take one of the preload cans, and the other would be placed sideways in the staging zone so they could get to it quickly after their first stack.

[carpedav000]

Originally Posted by evanperryg

Of course, you guys have the somewhat evil, extremely cool detaching hooks, which is a big bonus. Even if it partially caused our lowest scoring match of the season at the worst possible time, it was one of the coolest things I have seen this season.

Any match video of this?

[bkahl]

Originally Posted by carpedav000

Any match video of this?

http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2015arc_sf1m2

[TJP123]

Originally Posted by evanperryg

Of course, you guys have the somewhat evil, extremely cool detaching hooks, which is a big bonus. Even if it partially caused our lowest scoring match of the season at the worst possible time, it was one of the coolest things I have seen this season.

Don't tell anybody, but that was completely unintentional.

There's a right and left side to the hooks and they're removed for transport configuration. One pin in each on the field and they're ready to go. Because of some confusion in queue, they were switched. The pins didn't match the holes, and we incorrectly thought that was because something got bent in the previous match tug-of-war with 1538. The head ref was starting to get antsy about how long we were taking so I just shoved it down as hard as I could and hoped we'd hook the can and be out of there before anybody else had a chance to grab on. I didn't know that our HP was having the same problem on the other hook, or we might have put 2+2 together and figured out they were switched.

To make it even worse, we had shortened our go-forward distance to avoid interfering with 234's 20-pt auton, and something didn't work so we didn't move at all. We got down into the holes pretty quickly... and just sat there. The surgical tubing on the hooks is just to pull the arms back down under the height limit, they weren't intended to withstand the force of two robots pulling in opposite directions.

Either that, or it was all a diabolical ploy to bait an unsuspecting alliance into the most awesome tug of war of the season. I'll leave that up to the reader to decide.

[evanperryg]

Originally Posted by TJP123

Don't tell anybody, but that was completely unintentional.

There's a right and left side to the hooks and they're removed for transport configuration. One pin in each on the field and they're ready to go. Because of some confusion in queue, they were switched. The pins didn't match the holes, and we incorrectly thought that was because something got bent in the previous match tug-of-war with 1538. The head ref was starting to get antsy about how long we were taking so I just shoved it down as hard as I could and hoped we'd hook the can and be out of there before anybody else had a chance to grab on. I didn't know that our HP was having the same problem on the other hook, or we might have put 2+2 together and figured out they were switched.

To make it even worse, we had shortened our go-forward distance to avoid interfering with 234's 20-pt auton, and something didn't work so we didn't move at all. We got down into the holes pretty quickly... and just sat there. The surgical tubing on the hooks is just to pull the arms back down under the height limit, they weren't intended to withstand the force of two robots pulling in opposite directions.

Either that, or it was all a diabolical ploy to bait an unsuspecting alliance into the most awesome tug of war of the season. I'll leave that up to the reader to decide.

We were slightly suspecting... We delayed our auto because we didn't want to get into a tug of war with you guys, hoping you might miss one and we'd get it. Instead, you didn't move forward and then did some detaching hook magic to get the can again. We had never missed our 2-can auto until after that can war. We seriously thought you guys had just made the most brilliant strategic maneuver I've ever seen, but either way that was the best tug-of-war of the season, easily.

[carpedav000]

Originally Posted by evanperryg

We were slightly suspecting... We delayed our auto because we didn't want to get into a tug of war with you guys, hoping you might miss one and we'd get it. Instead, you didn't move forward and then did some detaching hook magic to get the can again. We had never missed our 2-can auto until after that can war. We seriously thought you guys had just made the most brilliant strategic maneuver I've ever seen, but either way that was the best tug-of-war of the season, easily.

That tug-of-war was good, but not the best. (IMO) The best involved 3310 and another team that I forget, they both hooked on to the same cans and their grabbers didnt release, so they got to spent the majority of the match in an epic tug-of-war.

[Citrus Dad]

Originally Posted by carpedav000

That tug-of-war was good, but not the best. (IMO) The best involved 3310 and another team that I forget, they both hooked on to the same cans and their grabbers didnt release, so they got to spent the majority of the match in an epic tug-of-war.

That was 5027. They were on our SVR alliance and they were using the hooks we left with them. No match video up yet on that one.

[carpedav000]

Originally Posted by Citrus Dad

That was 5027. They were on our SVR alliance and they were using the hooks we left with them. No match video up yet on that one.

I forget, was there ever a 1678/3310 can battle? I'd be interested to see who would win that.

[jajabinx124]

Originally Posted by carpedav000

I forget, was there ever a 1678/3310 can battle? I'd be interested to see who would win that.

1678 and 3310 went head to head(On opposing alliances) only twice in the Newton division this year. Quals 42 and Semi-Final 2 in newton this year are the 2 matches where they were on opposing alliances. After watching semi-final 2 they did not have a can battle. A can battle could of possibly happened in Quals 42, but the likelihood is low that they did.

[JohnSchneider]

Originally Posted by jajabinx124

1678 and 3310 went head to head(On opposing alliances) only twice in the Newton division this year. Quals 42 and Semi-Final 2 in newton this year are the 2 matches where they were on opposing alliances. After watching semi-final 2 they did not have a can battle. A can battle could of possibly happened in Quals 42, but the likelihood is low that they did.

We agreed not to compete in s2 as a drawn out can battle would lower both of our scores.

[jajabinx124]

Originally Posted by JohnSchneider

We agreed not to compete in s2 as a drawn out can battle would lower both of our scores.

Yep, logically makes sense.

Can battles didn't happen much during quarters or semis at champs.

[Citrus Dad]

Originally Posted by jajabinx124

1678 and 3310 went head to head(On opposing alliances) only twice in the Newton division this year. Quals 42 and Semi-Final 2 in newton this year are the 2 matches where they were on opposing alliances. After watching semi-final 2 they did not have a can battle. A can battle could of possibly happened in Quals 42, but the likelihood is low that they did.

We ran our auto routine in every match during quals. We didn't see a reason to limit the other alliance's score in quals and we were never in an alliance that could put up more than 5 capped stacks. I think we probably agreed to split the cans in the semifinals.