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For the goals you outlined, please try collaborating with the Chief Delphi folks to help them improve this site, before trying to create a spin-off site.
With all due respect to the administrators, it doesn't seem like things move at a pace necessary to keep up with suggestions and new use cases. Heck, the planned vBulletin upgrade from 2013/2014 still hasn't happened, so the forum is running on a version from 2006 (!). I don't know if it's lack of time from Brandon, or licensing, or what, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who would be willing to help test and deploy updates a bit more quickly if given the chance.

Also, the forum format is great for many things, but not everything. If we were to suggest trying to keep those minor Q&A-type threads here, at the very least a few plugins should be installed to make the experience better. Best-case scenario would be finding a StackExchange-like module that is a part of (or integrates deeply with) vB. The ability to upvote, edit others' answers, and use a more robust tagging system makes a world of a difference.

Lastly, I think no one is suggesting that the SE site take over for CD. In fact, it can be a huge help, as long as it's promoted and highly visible on CD itself. In my opinion, the subreddit should be seen as much more disruptive than SE, yet CD still stands after all this time.
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Re: Please read! FRC.Stackexchange Proposal

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the forum is running on a version from 2006 (!). I don't know if it's lack of time from Brandon, or licensing, or what, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who would be willing to help test and deploy updates a bit more quickly if given the chance.
Just wondering: What does the newer version offer that justifies the time, effort, and risk of updating? Is there a significant majority of CD users clamoring for the update?




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Just wondering: What does the newer version offer that justifies the time, effort, and risk of updating?
New/updated plugins that can fill the roles that people want to see implemented within CD. I haven't kept up with vBulletin in quite a few years, though, so I honestly couldn't give you a concrete list.

As long as the site is secure and meets the needs of the audience, then it's fine sitting at 3.4.6. I'm certainly not suggesting upgrading solely for the sake of being on the latest version number. Just offering my services if that'll help get things moving.

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Is there a significant majority of CD users clamoring for the update?
I couldn't tell you without a poll or a working mind reader.
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New/updated plugins that can fill the roles that people want to see implemented within CD. I haven't kept up with vBulletin in quite a few years, though, so I honestly couldn't give you a concrete list.

As long as the site is secure and meets the needs of the audience, then it's fine sitting at 3.4.6. I'm certainly not suggesting upgrading solely for the sake of being on the latest version number. Just offering my services if that'll help get things moving.



I couldn't tell you without a poll or a working mind reader.
I think, and this is going from memory rather than citations so it's a bit outside my usual approach, that there's a fair number of custom things implemented which make upgrading a bit of a pain. If I recall, Brandon was kid when this whole CD thing got started. Plus add on the sheer size and desire to not lose information and upgrading becomes quite a task.

I remember some posts along this line but I'm not sure.
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I think, and this is going from memory rather than citations so it's a bit outside my usual approach, that there's a fair number of custom things implemented which make upgrading a bit of a pain. If I recall, Brandon was kid when this whole CD thing got started. Plus add on the sheer size and desire to not lose information and upgrading becomes quite a task.

I remember some posts along this line but I'm not sure.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=118256

That being said, some of the work that's been done so far on here has been... er, let's just say that I hope it can be undone after the upgrade?

I do recall that CD-Media is mostly custom. (And that Brandon has a day job.)
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Re: Please read! FRC.Stackexchange Proposal

Stack exchange is a fantastic resource for technical questions.

CD could definitely learn from the Stack Exchange answer process on how to filter the best responses on technical questions. Over the years the ChiefDelphi signal to noise ratio has been reduced to too much noise. Filtering responses base on upvotes is a great way to direct people to the best answer.

Forming a FIRST related SE (stackexchange) site is a bit of a stretch because the robotics SE site has not progressed passed the beta stage.
I encourage you to post your FIRST questions to the robotics SE site and help build a single robotics SE site pass the beta stage.

Here is the link to the Robotics SE Beta site.
A dedicated crew of volunteers could possibly transfer over the best Chief Delphi questions onto the Robotics SE site to help share the knowledge.
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