IRI Predictions

[Kevin Leonard]

Originally Posted by carpedav000

I can honestly see a 234-1024-1741-(insert another robot that can cap stacks of 6 here) alliance forming due to discussion in a previous thread that revealed an unexpected strategy that could amount to a potential 266 points w/o litter

You don't have enough stacks from the landfill.
1741 hasn't shown the ability to make three landfill stacks, and 234 and 1024 are unable to landfill.

[carpedav000]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

You don't have enough stacks from the landfill.

Large amounts of landfill stacking was not part of the strategy, my friend.

[Kevin Leonard]

Originally Posted by carpedav000

Large amounts of landfill stacking was not part of the strategy, my friend.

(You're not going to win IRI without landfill, there are only so many totes behind the alliance station wall)

[logank013]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

(You're not going to win IRI without landfill, there are only so many totes behind the alliance station wall)

The winners of IRI should be able to put up at least 8 stacks every match. Captain and first pick should put up a combined 6 full stack. then the 2nd or 3rd pick (based on who is playing in the next match) should put up another 2 stacks from wherever they play. i could easily see 148 and 1114 winning it all. They should be able to put up 7 stacks together.

[logank013]

I know Opr isn't everything but it is a pretty good statistical point for this years game. I made this Spreadsheet earlier using Ed Law's scouting database and using blue alliance. This can help make some predictions.

Also remember that some teams have changes. I know my team has made some good changes to our robot after worlds and many teams, like mine, will also have rookie drivers at IRI. So nobody can really call IRI at all.

[BenGuy]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

(You're not going to win IRI without landfill, there are only so many totes behind the alliance station wall)

Keep in mind that there are 12 more totes behind each alliance wall... Might not be as much of an issue at IRI

[carpedav000]

Originally Posted by BenGuy

Keep in mind that there are 12 more totes behind each alliance wall... Might not be as much of an issue at IRI

Thank you.

[Tyler Olds]

Originally Posted by BenGuy

Keep in mind that there are 12 more totes behind each alliance wall... Might not be as much of an issue at IRI

Now all we need to do is add the third tote chute in the middle.

[Kevin Leonard]

Originally Posted by BenGuy

Keep in mind that there are 12 more totes behind each alliance wall... Might not be as much of an issue at IRI

Which two good robots can score entirely on their own.
I will eat my robot if an alliance wins IRI without landfill totes.

(That being said, I thought the same thing about a divisional championship alliance, and yet somehow 1325-3339-20-1711 made Einstein. Maybe I shouldn't make these bets )

[Kevin Leonard]

Here's an even crazier set of predictions (because upset #1 seeds and declines at IRI are interesting)

1) 1806-2056-1619-4678
2) 1023-33-548-469
3) 1114-195-1310-1325
4) 148-1625-2468-217
5) 118-624-3824-67
6) 2826-3130-2122-2512
7) 2338-234-125-1218
8) 330-1730-16-107

1806 plays like they did at the MO State Championship, and has a nice schedule and seeds first. Despite their great performance, they are rejected by 1114, 148, 118, and 2826 before they settle on 2056, who accepts.
With many of the major powerhouses split up, IRI eliminations is very interesting.

Quarterfinals have the 1, 3, 5, and 6 seeds advancing, with the 5 seed leading the pack posting the highest scores. The 4 seed underperformed, with 2468 dropping a can, and the 7 seed tried 2338-234-125 and 2338-234-1218, with neither posting high enough scores to move on. The 3 seed has 195 holding both their ramp and 1114's ramp, while 1310 mines the landfill.

Semifinals show the #3 seed really start to mesh, not once posting a score below 300. The 6 seed and 1 seed both falter, with 3130 spending too much time righting a can and being unable to make the two-three landfill stacks they were posting in quarterfinals, and 1619 gets a noodle caught in their backfeed ramp.

The #3 seed (1114-195-1310-1325) and #5 seed (118-624-3824-67) move on to finals.

In finals match #1, 195's swerve drive starts acting up, and they only place one stack, and despite 3824 getting a noodle caught in their elevator, they post two stacks. The #5 seed takes the first match on close margins.

In finals match #2, the #3 seed bring out 1325 in place of 195 as 195 frantically works to fix their swerve problems. 1325 places their three stacks, 1114 places 4, and 1310 places 2, while 3824 drops a stack due to well placed noodles. The 3 seed takes the match.

Finals match #3 sees 195 come back on the field, but 3824 is replaced by 67 for the 5 seed. the three seed alliance works at maximum capacity, while the #5 seed has to adjust to 67 being on the field instead of 3824. The 3 seed places one more uncapped stack of 6 than the 5 seed, but the 5 seed threw more noodles. In the end, the 3 seed comes out on top.

Theoretical IRI Champions: 1114-195-1310-1325
SimVerse CyberMede

(What, is this too crazy?)

[jajabinx124]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

6) 2826-3130-2122-2512
7) 2338-234-125-1218

1806 plays like they did at the MO State Championship, and has a nice schedule and seeds first. Despite their great performance, they are rejected by 1114, 148, 118, and 2826 before they settle on 2056, who accepts.
With many of the major powerhouses split up, IRI eliminations is very interesting.

(What, is this too crazy?)

Yeah, these predictions are pretty crazy.. , but pretty well thought out.

I would like to talk about 2826's first pick. Even though 3130 is a rock solid landfill bot, I'd think that 2826 would consider 2338 as their first pick before considering 3130.

Just my opinion on a bit of your predictions.

[Kevin Leonard]

Originally Posted by jajabinx124

Yeah, these predictions are pretty crazy.. , but pretty well thought out.

I would like to talk about 2826's first pick. Even though 3130 is a rock solid landfill bot, I'd think that 2826 would consider 2338 as their first pick before considering 3130.

Just my opinion in a bit of the predictions.

Probably. But maybe 3130 was doing really well that day and 2338 had a couple bad matches. I believe 2826 and 3130 won a regional together as well, which was a part of my prediction. (Although you probably know that better than I do, considering you're from that region).
Both robots are 2-ish stacks from the landfill, anyway.

[jajabinx124]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

Probably. But maybe 3130 was doing really well that day and 2338 had a couple bad matches. I believe 2826 and 3130 won a regional together as well, which was a part of my prediction. (Although you probably know that better than I do, considering you're from that region).
Both robots are 2-ish stacks from the landfill, anyway.

2338 also has reliable can burglars(compatible with IRI rules, they have the ability to take 2 right cans from the STEP) and 3130 can't run their can burglar in auto because 3130 takes the 2 middle cans from the STEP in auto which is prohibited at IRI due to changes in the rules(Assuming 3130 doesn't modify their can burglar before IRI).

2338 also has a tethered ramp which they can pull out during eliminations if changes in strategy are needed.

I will agree that both robots are pretty equal in terms of stacks made from the landfill at the end of the match, but if both robots are playing well at IRI, I'd take 2338 because of their can burglars and tethered ramp compatibility.

[Jim Schaddelee]

I think it is almost impossible to predict the field at IRI because some teams will get better some many crumble under the pressure. I think to be in the top eight a team will need to consistently make 3 capped stacks and have a consistent 20 pt autonomous . Consistency is the key word . How many teams
attending can do that I am not sure, but I am curious about the number of teams that can do it.

[Kevin Leonard]

Originally Posted by Jim Schaddelee

I think it is almost impossible to predict the field at IRI because some teams will get better some many crumble under the pressure. I think to be in the top eight a team will need to consistently make 3 capped stacks and have a consistent 20 pt autonomous . Consistency is the key word . How many teams
attending can do that I am not sure, but I am curious about the number of teams that can do it.

It's not about realistic predictions. It's about bold, crazy predictions so that if they come true people are amazed.