IRI Predictions

[BenGuy]

Originally Posted by Noudvanbrunscho

I don't know much about rules that will be changed? But i think with these kind of alliances we will see 300+ scores!?

I started a thread talking about the rule changes if you're interested: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=137639

[BenGuy]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

(You're not going to win IRI without landfill, there are only so many totes behind the alliance station wall)

Keep in mind that there are 12 more totes behind each alliance wall... Might not be as much of an issue at IRI

[carpedav000]

Originally Posted by BenGuy

Keep in mind that there are 12 more totes behind each alliance wall... Might not be as much of an issue at IRI

Thank you.

[Tyler Olds]

Originally Posted by BenGuy

Keep in mind that there are 12 more totes behind each alliance wall... Might not be as much of an issue at IRI

Now all we need to do is add the third tote chute in the middle.

[Mitchell1714]

results;
1)1114-2056-1806 Finalists
2)2826-118-1640 Semi-finalists
3)1023-624-3130 IRI Champions
4)148-33-1619
5)1730-2338-3641 Semi-finalists
6)2122-1756-1625
7)16-234-548
8)330-1310-67

explanation;
The Semi-finalists
-The 5th seed makes it to the semi-finals with 1730 doing their 20 point auto and 3 42pt stacks from the human player station. 2338 offers 2 42pt stacks from the land fill and their canburglers in auto. 3641 gets two 42pt stacks in teleop. Consistency issues keep them from the finals.
-The 2nd seed has 2826 doing their 28pt auto and 3 42 stacks. 118 does 2-3 42 pt stacks from the landfill and uses their canburglers. 1640 provides 2 42 stacks from the feeder station. Consistency issues in 2826's auto keep them from the finals

The Finals
-The 3rd alliance has 1023 do their auto and make 4 42 stacks EVERY SINGLE PLAYOFF MATCH. 1023 uses the the 5 extra lbs to add another ramp. 624 uses their canburgler in auto and makes 3 42 point stacks. 3130 sits tight in auto and makes 2-3 tote stacks (no cans) in telop. The amazing consistency and repetativeness of of 1023 and 624's tasks are what put them above the #1 alliance, in addition to the fact they always stack all 7 cans and almost all the totes. This alliance will set the world high score of 358. 294(7 max stacks)+ 20(auto)+ 36(3 tote only 6 stacks)+8(2 of 3 remaining noodles) =358
-The 1st alliance has 1114 do their auto and 2056 run their canburglers. In teleop, 1114 and 2056 go and clear out the landfill first thing. While this is happening 1806 makes a stack from one of the 2 ramps tethered to their robot. Then 1806 gets out of the way while 1114 and 2056 take over the feeder stations. The 1st alliance has the same scoring potential as the 3rd alliance but fails to beat them as 1114/2056 occasionally take too long in the landfill and cannot make enough stacks from the feeder station. in each of the 3 finals matches, each alliance gets the 20 point auto and makes 7 canned and noodled stacks, but the advantage goes to the 3rd alliance that they can stack more extra totes.

[jajabinx124]

Originally Posted by Mitchell1714

results;
1)1114-2056-1806 Finalists
2)2826-118-1640 Semi-finalists
3)1023-624-3130 IRI Champions
4)148-33-1619
5)1730-2338-3641 Semi-finalists
6)2122-1756-1625
7)16-234-548
8)330-1310-67

IRI has 4 robots per alliance, which is a tradition for IRI and some offseason events.

[Mitchell1714]

I know, I didn't bother to put in the 4th robots as they are not often used and the deapth of iri makes it hard to predict who will get picked and who will not.

[jajabinx124]

Originally Posted by Mitchell1714

I know, I didn't bother to put in the 4th robots as they are not often used and the deapth of iri makes it hard to predict who will get picked and who will not.

Ah okay, I understand. I'll agree with you that it's hard to predict who'll get picked 3rd on an alliance because it depends on what that alliance wants(What feature does the alliance want for their backup bot and other reasons).

Time for my predictions,

1) 1114, 2056, 1730, 16 (SF)

2) 148, 118, 548, 1806 (W)

3) 2826, 33, 1640, 2512 (F)

4) 2338, 2468, 1756, 20 (QF)

5) 330, 195, 1218, 1325 (SF)

6) 2590, 624, 469, 234 (QF)

7) 1023, 2122, 503, 27 (QF)

8) 1310, 67, 1619, 225 (QF)

[Ekcrbe]

Originally Posted by Mitchell1714

-The 3rd alliance has 1023 do their auto and make 4 42 stacks EVERY SINGLE PLAYOFF MATCH.

Um... I love 1023, but I've watched them all year up through MSC and Archimedes, and I've never seen them get close to doing four full stacks.

[ice.berg]

Originally Posted by jajabinx124

Ah okay, I understand. I'll agree with you that it's hard to predict who'll get picked 3rd on an alliance because it depends on what that alliance wants(What feature does the alliance want for their backup bot and other reasons).

Time for my predictions,

1) 1114, 2056, 1730, 16 (SF)

2) 148, 118, 548, 1806 (W)

3) 2826, 33, 1640, 2512 (F)

4) 2338, 2468, 1756, 20 (QF)

5) 330, 195, 1218, 1325 (SF)

6) 2590, 624, 469, 234 (QF)

7) 1023, 2122, 503, 27 (QF)

8) 1310, 67, 1619, 225 (QF)

Are you saying double finalists??

[logank013]

Originally Posted by Ekcrbe

Um... I love 1023, but I've watched them all year up through MSC and Archimedes, and I've never seen them get close to doing four full stacks.

I scouted every match on Archimedes. Let's just say that 1023 does 3 full stacks. Never more. Never less (except the time their ramp flipped). They are very very very consistent at just 3 stacks.

[Loose Screw]

Originally Posted by Ekcrbe

Um... I love 1023, but I've watched them all year up through MSC and Archimedes, and I've never seen them get close to doing four full stacks.

I've seen them add a few totes after their 3 42pt stacks a few times (See QF4 Einstein). Might not mean much by itself, but with IRI allowing the three yellow totes to be scored as grey totes and 1023's reliable auto, I could see them going for 4 stacks. We'll have to wait and see, as they usually choose consistency over scoring (from my experience on the team).

This is all just speculation on my part as I haven't done much with them this year, so I have no idea what they have planned for IRI.

[Kevin Leonard]

Originally Posted by BenGuy

Keep in mind that there are 12 more totes behind each alliance wall... Might not be as much of an issue at IRI

Which two good robots can score entirely on their own.
I will eat my robot if an alliance wins IRI without landfill totes.

(That being said, I thought the same thing about a divisional championship alliance, and yet somehow 1325-3339-20-1711 made Einstein. Maybe I shouldn't make these bets )

[Kevin Leonard]

Here's an even crazier set of predictions (because upset #1 seeds and declines at IRI are interesting)

1) 1806-2056-1619-4678
2) 1023-33-548-469
3) 1114-195-1310-1325
4) 148-1625-2468-217
5) 118-624-3824-67
6) 2826-3130-2122-2512
7) 2338-234-125-1218
8) 330-1730-16-107

1806 plays like they did at the MO State Championship, and has a nice schedule and seeds first. Despite their great performance, they are rejected by 1114, 148, 118, and 2826 before they settle on 2056, who accepts.
With many of the major powerhouses split up, IRI eliminations is very interesting.

Quarterfinals have the 1, 3, 5, and 6 seeds advancing, with the 5 seed leading the pack posting the highest scores. The 4 seed underperformed, with 2468 dropping a can, and the 7 seed tried 2338-234-125 and 2338-234-1218, with neither posting high enough scores to move on. The 3 seed has 195 holding both their ramp and 1114's ramp, while 1310 mines the landfill.

Semifinals show the #3 seed really start to mesh, not once posting a score below 300. The 6 seed and 1 seed both falter, with 3130 spending too much time righting a can and being unable to make the two-three landfill stacks they were posting in quarterfinals, and 1619 gets a noodle caught in their backfeed ramp.

The #3 seed (1114-195-1310-1325) and #5 seed (118-624-3824-67) move on to finals.

In finals match #1, 195's swerve drive starts acting up, and they only place one stack, and despite 3824 getting a noodle caught in their elevator, they post two stacks. The #5 seed takes the first match on close margins.

In finals match #2, the #3 seed bring out 1325 in place of 195 as 195 frantically works to fix their swerve problems. 1325 places their three stacks, 1114 places 4, and 1310 places 2, while 3824 drops a stack due to well placed noodles. The 3 seed takes the match.

Finals match #3 sees 195 come back on the field, but 3824 is replaced by 67 for the 5 seed. the three seed alliance works at maximum capacity, while the #5 seed has to adjust to 67 being on the field instead of 3824. The 3 seed places one more uncapped stack of 6 than the 5 seed, but the 5 seed threw more noodles. In the end, the 3 seed comes out on top.

Theoretical IRI Champions: 1114-195-1310-1325
SimVerse CyberMede

(What, is this too crazy?)

[jajabinx124]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

6) 2826-3130-2122-2512
7) 2338-234-125-1218

1806 plays like they did at the MO State Championship, and has a nice schedule and seeds first. Despite their great performance, they are rejected by 1114, 148, 118, and 2826 before they settle on 2056, who accepts.
With many of the major powerhouses split up, IRI eliminations is very interesting.

(What, is this too crazy?)

Yeah, these predictions are pretty crazy.. , but pretty well thought out.

I would like to talk about 2826's first pick. Even though 3130 is a rock solid landfill bot, I'd think that 2826 would consider 2338 as their first pick before considering 3130.

Just my opinion on a bit of your predictions.