DoubleSolenoid question

[FrankJ]

Originally Posted by jtrv

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Yea, I was just wondering if the software would know. We always just had it reset itself to retracted in autonomous but it was a minor pain in the pits when nothing worked until we hit the extend button on the controller again.

The FRC legal valve is a bistable device. The code is open loop (no feed back) Without a sensor to confirm the valve position, the code doesn't know what position the valve is in. When using these valves, I always have the programer keep the solenoid energized if the valve position is important. (Yes they will generally stay in the last energized position.) Obliviously there is no way to keep the solenoid energized with the robot disabled.

[GeeTwo]

Originally Posted by FrankJ

The FRC legal valve is a bistable device. The code is open loop (no feed back) Without a sensor to confirm the valve position, the code doesn't know what position the valve is in. When using these valves, I always have the programer keep the solenoid energized if the valve position is important. (Yes they will generally stay in the last energized position. Obliviously there is no way to keep the solenoid energized with the robot disabled.

The KoP valves are bistable devices. The only limitations I am aware of for FRC legality is:

Originally Posted by R66

The only pneumatic system items permitted on 2015 FRC ROBOTS include the items listed below.
C. Solenoid valves with a maximum 1/8 in. NPT port diameter,

Automatic return valves which meet this requirement are also available at AndyMark and elsewhere. Especially if you're going to have your pneumatics in one position most of the time, this may be a good solution to your problem.

[FrankJ]

Originally Posted by GeeTwo

The KoP valves are bistable devices. The only limitations I am aware of for FRC legality is:..

We use the Automation Direct stuff. Works great. AD is a both a national & Georgia state First sponsor. Great company, good prices, fast shipping. (free 2 day for over $49)

Back to the point, for which I should have been more clear, was specifically for dual solenoid valves. You can buy a spring centered dual solenoid valves (mono stable). If you use one in FRC, the center section would have to be able to vent the discharge ports when system pressure is released. The spring return single solenoid valves also has to be able to vent the discharge ports when pressure is released. Not all do. All of this is not really relevant to what is essentially a control question. I generally prefer the single solenoid valves because they take one less output to do mostly the same thing.