IRI Predictions

[The other Gabe]

Originally Posted by kyle_hamblett

If I recall correctly, 1114 and 148 were switching between 1st and 2nd throughout the entirety of qualification matches. Now I'm not sure if we're going to be seeing the same performance that was at champs, but if 148 is ranked 1, they will most likely pick 1114, therefore splitting up the 2056+1114 combo.

it was really decided based on their alliances, in my opinion 1114 performed slightly better, but 148 had the luck of the draw a little bit. of course that's all relative since they're both fantastic... with them both having fantastic robots an no lack of cans consistently, another team could just as easily come out on top (195, 2056, etc)

[logank013]

Originally Posted by The other Gabe

it was really decided based on their alliances, in my opinion 1114 performed slightly better, but 148 had the luck of the draw a little bit. of course that's all relative since they're both fantastic... with them both having fantastic robots an no lack of cans consistently, another team could just as easily come out on top (195, 2056, etc)

145 was consistent at 3.5 full stacks where 1114 was consistent at only 2.5 to 3 full stacks. The only difference is that 1114 would always do co-op where 148 may not be able to.

[orangemoore]

Originally Posted by logank013

145 was consistent at 3.5 full stacks where 1114 was consistent at only 2.5 to 3 full stacks. The only difference is that 1114 would always do co-op where 148 may not be able to.

What do you mean 1114 did co-op? Their robot design does not allow them to do so.

[Kevin Sheridan]

Originally Posted by orangemoore

What do you mean 1114 did co-op? Their robot design does not allow them to do so.

They added the ability to co-op at champs.

[orangemoore]

Originally Posted by Kevin Sheridan

They added the ability to co-op at champs.

I didn't realize that.

[logank013]

Originally Posted by orangemoore

What do you mean 1114 did co-op? Their robot design does not allow them to do so.

They did at worlds. They adjusted their intake wheels. I believe they did it like 254 did co-op

[Abhishek R]

Originally Posted by logank013

145 was consistent at 3.5 full stacks where 1114 was consistent at only 2.5 to 3 full stacks. The only difference is that 1114 would always do co-op where 148 may not be able to.

Don't believe that's quite true. Both machines are capable of 4 full stacks, and I've seen both of them do it in person. I don't think 148 ever really tried to co-op, and although I didn't get to see many of their qualification matches at champs, I heard 1114's attempt to co-op didn't go too well (or the co-op worked but the rest of the match didn't go too well, something like that).

[z_beeblebrox]

Originally Posted by Abhishek R

Don't believe that's quite true. Both machines are capable of 4 full stacks, and I've seen both of them do it in person. I don't think 148 ever really tried to co-op, and although I didn't get to see many of their qualification matches at champs, I heard 1114's attempt to co-op didn't go too well (or the co-op worked but the rest of the match didn't go too well, something like that).

AFAIK, 148's tether is too short to allow co-op.

[Abhishek R]

Originally Posted by z_beeblebrox

AFAIK, 148's tether is too short to allow co-op.

Would make sense, you'd probably want to reduce resistance in the flow as much as possible.

[logank013]

Originally Posted by Abhishek R

Don't believe that's quite true. Both machines are capable of 4 full stacks, and I've seen both of them do it in person. I don't think 148 ever really tried to co-op, and although I didn't get to see many of their qualification matches at champs, I heard 1114's attempt to co-op didn't go too well (or the co-op worked but the rest of the match didn't go too well, something like that).

I believe that both bots are easily capable but I am talking about consistency. For instance, our bot did 3 full stacks one match but most matches we did, we only got 2 full stacks. after watching lots of game footage at blue alliance, I figured 148 was consistent at 3.5 full stacks where 1114 was only doing 3 full stacks at tops. It really doesn't matter now that 148 declined to go to IRI. Bu i do believe both bots are capable of 4 stacks. 148 did that many times on Einstein. I only saw once or twice where 1114 did 4 stacks. There issue was getting past litter on the ground.

[The other Gabe]

Originally Posted by logank013

145 was consistent at 3.5 full stacks where 1114 was consistent at only 2.5 to 3 full stacks. The only difference is that 1114 would always do co-op where 148 may not be able to.

in Qualification matches and the earlier elimination rounds, 1114 was consistently able to clear landfill, their trouble mainly started on Einstein. 148 was not at all consistent, and had two or three matches where they screwed things up (moved robin one match, drove over tether in another) and couldn't make stacks at all. at their best 148 could put up 3 capped and 1 uncapped 6 stacks (my team was on that field, so I watched pretty much ever match).

In response to Abhishek R (sorry, can't figure out multiquoting) who said: "Don't believe that's quite true. Both machines are capable of 4 full stacks, and I've seen both of them do it in person. I don't think 148 ever really tried to co-op, and although I didn't get to see many of their qualification matches at champs, I heard 1114's attempt to co-op didn't go too well (or the co-op worked but the rest of the match didn't go too well, something like that)."

1114 never managed more than 3 full stacks due to not using their ramp, and their attempts at co-op. on of those attempts got a tote sideways in their bot, and other times it took too much time. They got used to it later and could do it a bit better