IRI Predictions

[Kevin Leonard]

Let's make some new predictions, shall we?

1) 1114-2056-1640-217
2) 118-624-1619-1625
3) 2338-1023-1806-3130
4) 2826-33-548-67
5) 1310-195-2590-125
6) 330-16-234-1024
7) 469-1756-3824-233
8) 225-1730-2122-1218

2826 rejects 2338

The infamous 1114-2056 combination is your #1 seed, as the hours 1114 and 2056 have played this game together overpower all other considerations for a selection. 1114 grabs cans and clears the landfill, 2056 hits a 3 tote autonomous and uses a tethered ramp, and 1640 makes stacks from the feeder station.

118 selects their friends on 624, and then picks up 624's Utah alliance partner 1619 in the second round for a killer alliance with every robot doing exactly what they like to be doing. 118 grabs cans and makes landfill stacks, 624 hits the 3 tote autonomous and makes feeder stacks of their own, and 1619 makes stacks from the feeder as well.

2338 reunites with their championship alliance partners, 1023, as well as 1806. The consistency of all three robots is top-notch, with 2338 in the landfill, and 1023 and 1806 making feeder stacks with their respective ramps.

2826 managed to form quite the alliance from the #4 seed, with 33 and 548 having chemistry from their run in Hopper together. What sets them apart is their ability to grab missed cans in teleoperated mode immediately due to 33's claw. They use this to take advantage of a few low seeded alliances to move on to semifinals.

Alliances 5-8 have consistency issues in their quarterfinals matches that keeps them out of the top 4 moving on to semis. Perhaps the closest to moving on was the 8 seed alliance, with 225 sitting out, instead playing 1730-2122-1218. They fail to move on by slim margins since 1218 was only building stacks of 5.

Going into semifinals, the alliances are ranked 4-1-2-3, with alliance 4's extra cans setting them apart in quarterfinals.
In semifinals, team don't miss cans, but they do mess up in other ways. 2056 accidentally hits their ramp and it becomes misaligned with the feeder station. They spend nearly half the match fixing it carefully, and as a result, post a low score in their second semifinal, causing them to be eliminated.
Similarly, 2338 drops a can off a stack when a haphazard piece of litter gets caught between their wheel and the scoring platform. They too, are eliminated.

Moving on to finals are the #2 seed (118-624-1619-1625) and #4 seed (2826-33-548-67)

Finals #1 has 548 miss a can in autonomous. 118 and 33 race to get the can before the other, and 33 prevails. 1619 drops a stack for the first time in eliminations, and the #4 seed prevails.

Finals #2 sees both alliances get two cans in auto, a tote stack, a container set, and even a robot set for an even 32-32 split after auto. Both alliances play at maximum capacity, and the 2 seed prevails since 548 was making stacks of 5.

Finals #3 has the 4 seed bring 67 on the field in place of 548 in hopes of making up that difference between stacks of 5 and stacks of 6. Unfortunately for them, 67 misses a can in autonomous. 33 and 118 again race to grab the can before the other. This time, 118's rake mechanism gets caught on 33's claw, and the two robots get caught on each other, rendering both useless for the entire match.
1619 makes 2 capped, 1 uncapped stack, and 624 makes 3 capped stacks from the feeder before heading to the landfill to place as many additional totes as they can. 2826 also makes three capped, one uncapped stack, while 67 makes two capped stacks.

The match is extremely close looking out on the field. 118's alliance placed a few more totes, while 2826's alliance threw more noodles. It turns out one of 67's stacks is supported partially by 118's robot according to the ruling on the field, and that difference is enough to give 118-624-1619-1625 the win.

118 becomes the second ever world champion to win IRI in the same year, and 1625 wins IRI two years in a row.

IRI finals continues to be insane, and the 2015 IRI Champions are crowned:
The Up-a-Win CRyptoNauts
(118-624-1619-1625)

(I'm not sure if these were crazy enough. Not a single quarterfinals upset!)

[TheBoulderite]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

2) 118-624-1619-1625

Interesting. I wouldn't mind playing with CRyptonite again, and playing with the other two would be awesome as well!

[TheBoulderite]

As for the first alliance, would it be in 1114's best interests to choose 2826? I don't see why it wouldn't.

[Kevin Leonard]

Originally Posted by TheBoulderite

As for the first alliance, would it be in 1114's best interests to choose 2826? I don't see why it wouldn't.

In theory, perhaps, but in practice, 1114 has played with 2056 more times than they've played with 2826. Plus both robots are capable of tote stack autonomous modes and 3 capped stacks from the feeder station. Sure, 2826 has the 28 point autonomous mode, but those extra 8 points should be fairly easy to come by at IRI with the additional containers anyway, and 2056 is the more versatile, adaptable machine.

I would rely on scouting data to make that decision, and educated discussion about match strategy. I could not make that call right now, so I had 1114 picking 2056 because it makes logical sense to.

[orangelight]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

Finals #1 has 548 miss a can in autonomous.

We will make sure that doesn't happen

[Darkseer54]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

118 becomes the second ever world champion to win IRI in the same year

Hate to rain on your parade (and correct me if I'm wrong), but 469 did this both 2003 and 2014, while 71 did this 2004. Sorry.

[The other Gabe]

OK, here's my predictions (the whole thing could change if some robots decide not to attend, but this is the idea I had)

Rankings:
1)2826 (auto sets them apart)
2)118 (super consistent, rake allows them to scoop up extra cans quickly for their alliance)
3)1023 (consistency is key)
4)2056 (All around solid landfill bot)
5)195 (I just feel like they'd be ranked here)
6)1114 (Got a bit reckless driving a few times, just like on Einstein)
7)1310 (still a good bot)
8)1325 (they got a bit lucky, but aren't bad anyway)

Alliances:
1) 2826-118-1619-67 (W)
2) 1023-1114-234-1625 (SF)
3)2056-1730-469-225
4)195-33-1806-1756
5)1310-2122-68-3130 (F)
6)1325-503-4039-233 (the built-in-parts alliance: I just really want to see this happen regardless of practicality)
7)2468-330-1218-125
8)624-548-2338-16 (SF)

A rather uneventful IRI, or so it seemed:

After winning the event, it is announced that their trials are not over: The winning alliance must face the ultimate champions; The PNW all-stars team. The terror inducing silhouette of 4488 is seen, framed behind by the dynamic duo of 1983 and 1318. The robots take their places, and the match begins. 1318's can grabber works as it has since week 1: not the fastest, but always there. and speed doesnt matter this time, as their opponents cannot contest them for the cans, meanwhile, 1619's canburglars miss a can. 118 quickly swoops in to collect the missed can, with no net loss for their team. Both teams are hard at work throughout the entire match: with all the cans they could ever need nearby, 4488 is able to create a wall of 4 capped 6 stacks, with 1318 putting up 1 capped and 1 uncapped 6 stack. 1983, having utilized the extra weight limit to add a mechanism that acts actively on the totes, is able to put out 2 capped 6 stacks, as well as another 5 totes. Their opponents play to the same caliber that let them win IRI, however, with Wave's auto giving the team an early 28 point advantage, while in teleop they put up 3 capped stacks, matched in totes, by both of their allies, who only cap 2 of their stacks. with the score at 316 to 332. In the second match, everything that could go wrong did go wrong. 2826's auto messes up, jamming the yellow totes in their robot all game, rendering 3 containers useless. however, on the other side, things are no better: 1318's claw is letting containers slip off stacks, while 1983's lift won't work at all, having not been put together quite correctly. with one alliance restricted to 4 cans, and the other relying on a single robot to make tall stacks, things are grim for everyone. 4488 has the highest scoring single robot game in history, putting up 4 capped 6 stacks as well as an extra 4 totes, while 118 and 1619's robots perform exactly as they had before. however, since 1318 and 1983 are still able to shove totes around or make short stacks, they are able to eke by a win, 210 to 200. 1983 is able to fix their issue, but 1318 can't solve theirs. with Wave's auto working properly, the winners of IRI get to keep their title.

TL;DR I just wanted a chance to headcannon my perfect PNW alliance for IRI, so you can probably ignore the giant paragraph if you want. the predictions above are for real though

[BL0X3R]

Originally Posted by The other Gabe

...4488 is able to create a wall of 4 capped 6 stacks...

Challenge Accepted. (obviously not at IRI, but I think we can programmatically shave at least another 2 seconds off our match-long routine by whatever off-season we do attend)

To keep the thread on topic, I'll post my prediction...
(Purposefully leaving out 3rd picks - there's no way I will be able to guess those)

Seeding:
1) 2826
2) 1023
3) 118
4) 1114
5) 2056
6) 624
7) 1730
8) 1325

Alliances and Results:
1) 2826-118-234 (F)
2) 1023-1114-330 (W)
3) 2056-1325-4039
4) 624-33-2468 (SF)
5) 1730-16-67(SF)
6) 1310-2338-316
7) 195-503-233
8) 548-469-1640

...meanwhile at the theoretical West-Coast-IRI, since everyone seems to love talking about what would happen if PNW, CA, and HI were there...

Seeding:
1) 254
2) 4488
3) 1678
4) 971
5) 368
6) 955
7) 973
8) 359

Alliances and Results:
1) 254-973-3674(W, after the most epic 3 matches of recycle rush ever... which were still only mildly more exciting than the average AA Elims matchups...)
2) 4488-971-1318 (F)
3) 1678-368-4450
4) 955-1983-1595(SF)
5) 359-2471-2990
6) 2550-948-2907 (SF)
7) 3476-4061-2046
8) 3663-399-2635

[carpedav000]

You want a BOLD, CRAZY prediction? You got it!

Seeding:

1) 33
2) 2056
3) 1114
4) 2826
5) 1023
6) 548
7) 330
8) 234

Alliances:

1) 33, 548, 4039, 1741 (W)
2) 2056, 1114, 1806, 2512
3) 2826, 195, 1310, 1720 (F)
4) 1023, 233, 2338, 27 (SF)
5) 330, 2468, 225, 67
6) 234, 624, 16, 5188 (SF)
7) 1619, 1730, 4678, 217
8) 503, 3641, 1024, 1756

[logank013]

Originally Posted by carpedav000

You want a BOLD, CRAZY prediction? You got it!

Seeding:

1) 33
2) 2056
3) 1114
4) 2826
5) 1023
6) 548
7) 330
8) 234

Alliances:

1) 33, 548, 4039, 1741 (W)
2) 2056, 1114, 1806, 2512
3) 2826, 624, 1310, 1720 (F)
4) 1023, 233, 2338, 27 (SF)
5) 330, 2468, 225, 67
6) 234, 5254, 16, 5188 (SF)
7) 1619, 1730, 4678, 217
8) 503, 3641, 1024, 1756

That is crazy. haha. you forgot 195 who is consistent at making 3 full stacks from the human player zone almost every match and I doubt that 234 could be 8th ranked at IRI this year But thanks for the compliment.

[carpedav000]

Originally Posted by logank013

That is crazy. haha. you forgot 195 who is consistent at making 3 full stacks from the human player zone almost every match and I doubt that 234 could be 8th ranked at IRI this year But thanks for the compliment.

195 still hasnt accepted

[thatprogrammer]

I will just predict these alliances.

1. 1114, 2826, 179
4. 195, 2338, 1657

Let's see how wrong my predictions are

[kyle_hamblett]

Originally Posted by thatprogrammer

I will just predict these alliances.

1. 1114, 2826, 179
4. 195, 2338, 1657

Let's see how wrong my predictions are

Seeing that 1114 and 179 are landfill bots, it would be interesting to see what would happen in that situation. 2826 would just do their own thing off in the corner.

[thatprogrammer]

Originally Posted by kyle_hamblett

Seeing that 1114 and 179 are landfill bots, it would be interesting to see what would happen in that situation. 2826 would just do their own thing off in the corner.

179 is no longer a landfill robot. They made around 2 six stacks from the feeder at bayou.

[FRCmediaMan]

Originally Posted by thatprogrammer

179 is no longer a landfill robot. They made around 2 six stacks from the feeder at bayou.

Who said our bot is the same as it was at Bayou?