FRC Captains Round Table - Networking Facebook Group

[Rman1923]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

So it's still not clear that you would keep a "Team President" or a "CEO" or a "Principal Lead Student" from joining the group. Would you mind answering the simple question of whether the specific title of "Captain" is required? (And if not, why did you name the group that way?)

Can we all agree that the meaning is "Student Leaders" meaning Presidents, Captians, CEOs, Tribal leader, Cult master, or whatever the hell we call the student leaders? Like this whole thread has made Mt. Everest out of an Anthill (I know the original saying, this is exaggerating a step further, mainly because words are hard and it's just a name).
Maybe to avoid confusion we can call the group "FRC Tribal cult team master warrior President and CEO leader captain (in a non-military way) bleh".

Also, your question is recursive. Unless we name the group "FRC Tribal cult team master warrior President and CEO leader captain (in a non-military way) bleh", we can't possibly account for all of the types of names that teams give to leaders. So for the same reason naming the group Captians might somehow in a different universe exclude Presidents and CEO's of teams, there is no name to umbrella everyone (except for "FRC Tribal cult team master warrior President and CEO leader captain (in a non-military way) bleh"). I think that's what his team calls the student leads, and as he made the group he labeled it as such...

Being a member of this group, I can assure you that it is not to exclude anyone but to collect a certain group of people. We also include many types of leaders. We also, don't really check if you're a captain or not, it's kind of on the honor basis. Not targeting or making fun of anyone specifically, but lets put the rivets in the coffin for this thread.

[Alan Anderson]

Originally Posted by Rman1923

Can we all agree that the meaning is "Student Leaders" meaning Presidents, Captians, CEOs, Tribal leader, Cult master, or whatever the hell we call the student leaders?

I'm perfectly willing to assume that, but Arjun (he created the group, right?) appears to be going out of his way to use only the title "Captain" when describing the group's desired membership.

Being a member of this group, I can assure you that it is not to exclude anyone but to collect a certain group of people.

Arjun stated quite clearly yesterday that the group is exclusive. He doesn't seem to understand that his choice of label makes it hard for many of us to divine the extent of that exclusivity, and I don't think his attempt at clarification did a good job of settling the question.

I would be most satisfied to find that the intent is to include all elected or appointed team leaders. I am highly unsatisfied by seeing "words are hard" used as an excuse for a lack of clarity.

[Monochron]

Originally Posted by Rman1923

Can we all agree that the meaning is "Student Leaders" meaning Presidents, Captians, CEOs, Tribal leader, Cult master, or whatever the hell we call the student leaders? Like this whole thread has made Mt. Everest out of an Anthill (I know the original saying, this is exaggerating a step further, mainly because words are hard and it's just a name).

Unfortunately "Student Leaders" and that list you gave have entirely different meanings. "Student Leaders" on our team are a group of officers including Engineering Captain, Communications Lead, Business Captain, and more. I would guess on your team "Student Leaders" only refers to the one or two students at the top?
If I were running the group I would replace "Captain" with "Student Leader". If Arjun doesn't want it that way then that's his prerogative. I just thought it would be worth discussing.