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Re: Georgia Districts confirmed for 2016!

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I'm fairly sure GaryVoshol was referring to the cost of the event from the perspective of the GeorgiaFIRST, not the team. Districts definitely lower team expenses but the district organization picks up the financial responsibility of running events.
Definitely. In Indiana, 3 of 4 event held here including the championships were at high schools, I imagine that high schools donate their space. The only event we had that wasn't at a high schools was in 2 high school size gyms at the rec center at Purdue and I imagine that wasn't too expensive.
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Re: Georgia Districts confirmed for 2016!

The entry fee goes to US First not the State entities. Much of the cost of putting on an event is born directly by the state/regional entity. (Ga First in this case). Few of the venues are completely free and even then there are support costs. I am not privy to the actually numbers, but as a WAG I suspect you could put on 4 average district events for the price of Peachtree at the world congress center.

None of the Georgia districts this year are at high schools. Several are at smaller civic centers. Venues will not be donated at least for this year.
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Re: Georgia Districts confirmed for 2016!

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The entry fee goes to US First not the State entities.
Just to clarify, as far as I understand it, your initial team registration fee and your district championship registration fee goes to USFIRST HQ. If you sign up for a third in-district play, that registration fee will go to your district organization.

So, if you want to support your state/region's organization, play more districts!
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Re: Georgia Districts confirmed for 2016!

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Your initial team registration fee and your district championship registration fee goes to USFIRST HQ. If you sign up for a third in-district play, that registration fee will go to your district organization.
After this registration phase, FIRST Manchester then provides each district with $1k per registered team.

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Assume you are GAFIRST. Assume your sponsor community continues to fund your organization at 2015 levels. Assume you have no other operating costs other than event production. Assume you have had zero team growth since the 2015 competition season.

In 2015 you ran two regional competitions, which cost you approximately $150k each (say). Assume also that the district championship will cost you approximately as much as a regional did, so say you have a balance of 150k that you can apply to your four district events.

But you also have a new income source-- FIRST HQ! They pay you in two ways:
-- You have 58 teams, for which you get $1k each.
-- You will run 4 district events with capacity for 40 teams each, which means you have 160 plays available. This means if you fill each event to capacity (assume this happens), then 44 teams will be playing 3rd plays, for which you also get $1k each.

This leaves you with $150k + 58k + 44K = 252k to run your four district events. Thus, you will break even, compared to your 2015 expenses, as long as the average cost to run a GA district event is less than $63k.

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None of the Georgia districts this year are at high schools. Several are at smaller civic centers.
To make a fine point.

100 % of the Georgia District events are embraced and hosted by units of
  • USG - University System of Georgia, this is the system than contains GT, UGA, KSU, CSU, etc
  • TCSG - Technical College System of Georgia, the state technical Colleges
  • GCCAN - Georgia College and Career Academy Network

Even though the events may be at a Civic Center, or Convention Center, the hosts are USG, TCSG, GCCAN units.

To date, there has never been a District system that was 100% university/college embraced.
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To make a fine point.

100 % of the Georgia District events are embraced and hosted by units of:

USG - University System of Georgia, this is the system than contains GT.....
It's just too bad there are no events in the city. All those potential GT volunteers....
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It's just too bad there are no events in the city. All those potential GT volunteers....
It's only 20 miles up the street, easy to get to.
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It's only 20 miles up the street, easy to get to.
As a leader of the Georgia Tech RoboJackets, a group that helps provide volunteers for the event, I would disagree with your dismissal of this "small" distance.

Our students usually have varying levels of commitment they can give to volunteering. Ideally, everyone would be able to devote their full weekend, but we typically have students whose schedules and availability don't allow that. It is not at all unusual for us to have multiple students only show up for half of a day. This becomes much harder to facilitate with this new location. Most of the time these students would walk to or from campus or be given a ride by one of us other volunteers. Walking to or from the event is now completely out of the question, and giving them a ride now changes from a short trip to an hour long commitment.

You definitely won't lose all your GT volunteers. Those you're most likely to lose aren't in your key volunteering roles. However, with distance and the change in event timing, you definitely will lose some.

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Re: Georgia Districts confirmed for 2016!

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Definitely. In Indiana, 3 of 4 event held here including the championships were at high schools, I imagine that high schools donate their space. The only event we had that wasn't at a high schools was in 2 high school size gyms at the rec center at Purdue and I imagine that wasn't too expensive.
Imagination is important, but try not to use it as a substitute for actual information. In addition to paying for the use of the facility, the Purdue district event had to rent bleachers, which had always been a major expense for the Boilermaker Regional.
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Imagination is important, but try not to use it as a substitute for actual information. In addition to paying for the use of the facility, the Purdue district event had to rent bleachers, which had always been a major expense for the Boilermaker Regional.
Haha. Thanks. I probably should have made it more clear that ll my information was a guess. That is my fault.
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