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Re: Alliance Captain versus last pick in Alliance Selection

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that makes no sense, though. you're losing 2 stacks worth of points... In a good game, 1671 can put up 3 stacks of 6 (I've seen video of them doing so). if 118 was not on the field, I would probably expect them to do 3 stacks of 6 from the feeder, dealing with all of the containers. I'd then have 1678 do 2 uncapped 6 stacks, and then try to get something out of the messed up landfill, since they have a wheeled collector. but this is all speculation, really, since it didnt happen
The statement begins and ends with "In a good game." If 1671 doesn't have a top flight game and fails to put up 3x 42, you've almost certainly lost the match. Allowing 118 to take one of the three containers greatly reduces the stress on 1671 and ensures all three containers' value is maximized.

You're not losing any uncapped stacks worth of points. Not the (and change) statements. That refers to uncapped stacks being placed after the capped stacks. Especially once you remove the time investment for 1671 to acquire and noodle their 3rd can, they should be able to get the same raw total of totes placed as you proposed (or more). 118 could work 1678's volume from the right station and is better suited to the additional totes from the landfill.
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Re: Alliance Captain versus last pick in Alliance Selection

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The statement begins and ends with "In a good game." If 1671 doesn't have a top flight game and fails to put up 3x 42, you've almost certainly lost the match. Allowing 118 to take one of the three containers greatly reduces the stress on 1671 and ensures all three containers' value is maximized.

You're not losing any uncapped stacks worth of points. Not the (and change) statements. That refers to uncapped stacks being placed after the capped stacks. Especially once you remove the time investment for 1671 to acquire and noodle their 3rd can, they should be able to get the same raw total of totes placed as you proposed (or more). 118 could work 1678's volume from the right station and is better suited to the additional totes from the landfill.
I suppose that makes sense... when you said "and some change", I assumed like, 3 totes, not a full stack

Edit: one thing I did notice in 118's reveal video is that they used a different collector (It looked pretty much just like 1678's) when doing feeder station as compared to landfill- I don't know how this would affect their landfill abilities, though...
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Re: Alliance Captain versus last pick in Alliance Selection

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For me, it's not about winning a blue banner. It's about the experience my students have at the event. And frankly, I just think it's a better experience to be an alliance captain, formulate your alliance according to your scouting information, and providing the leadership the alliance needs to be successful. Being a first pick for another alliance gives you some of this as well, as it can then be a join decision for the second pick. Whether we win or lose doesn't really matter.
I totally agree. FIRST isn't about winning, though winning is a nice intensive, FIRST is about learning and about the experience. I would rather my team tried its hardest and failed and learn from that, then any thing else. Besides if you have accomplished everything what else is there to look up to. If you have a dream, make that dream you life. Everyone's dream should be to be the best they can be and to learn the most they can learn. So if they're best isn't THE best of everyone they can accept it and stop trying or they can try even harder for the next match or the next competition or the next season. But I'm just one person. But if 10 or 100 or 1000 or even 100,000 people don't care about winning but instead care about the reasons of FIRST we WILL change the game and how people see it.
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