Lowest Finals Scores

[Kevin Leonard]

So some of my students on 20 and 5254 were discussing our slightly infamous match at the 2015 New York Tech Valley Regional where we scored only 18 points in our first finals match due to horrible luck and fouls.

Aside from matches with Red Cards, was this the lowest finals match score of 2015? Additionally, how does this compare to other years compared to their average scores?

[Ginger Bread]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

So some of my students on 20 and 5254 were discussing our slightly infamous match at the 2015 New York Tech Valley Regional where we scored only 18 points in our first finals match due to horrible luck and fouls.

Aside from matches with Red Cards, was this the lowest finals match score of 2015? Additionally, how does this compare to other years compared to their average scores?

How did your team get fouls in Recycle Rush?

[jijiglobe]

Originally Posted by Ginger Bread

How did your team get fouls in Recycle Rush?

They probably dropped a stack and some or all of it exited the field or crossed to the other side of the field. That or they got some sort of chute door foul that they may or may not have deserved.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Ginger Bread

How did your team get fouls in Recycle Rush?

It's not all THAT hard. Late noodles. Improper handling of the, yes, chute door. The odd departure of a tote/can (or 5) from your half of the playing field. Having the coach forget he isn't supposed to handle totes and litter. Hands in the field (you'd be surprised how many HPs stretch a little too far trying to load litter in the container).

I believe it's actually theoretically possible to get three fouls on ONE play, without involving the robot. I leave it as an exercise to the reader to figure that one out...

[Ginger Bread]

Originally Posted by EricH

It's not all THAT hard. Late noodles. Improper handling of the, yes, chute door. The odd departure of a tote/can (or 5) from your half of the playing field. Having the coach forget he isn't supposed to handle totes and litter. Hands in the field (you'd be surprised how many HPs stretch a little too far trying to load litter in the container).

I believe it's actually theoretically possible to get three fouls on ONE play, without involving the robot. I leave it as an exercise to the reader to figure that one out...

At my team's regional we never saw any fouls, and I never received a foul as an HP even though our main source of points was throwing noodles.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Ginger Bread

At my team's regional we never saw any fouls, and I never received a foul as an HP even though our main source of points was throwing noodles.

That is good.

Speaking out where I am, I reffed 2 events and watched another event's matches from the stands. Week 1, Week 3, Week 5.

1) Lots of "dumb" fouls by the humans. We got most of 'em in practice, but a number of other times someone just forgot what was going on. A couple of totes going over the step happened a time or two.

3) Not as many fouls, but still quite a few, as I recall. Again, mainly humans.

5) Long stretches without a foul... but we did issue a few in practice. Aside from a yellow card after the first match (team entered the field too early) and a rapid-fire sequence of fouls late in the first day, the refs mostly just stood there. I don't think we called a single robot foul, but several humans were over the wall or throwing late (the #1 most common foul, I think).

[TDav540]

Lowest at VA was 84 (Red Alliance, F1). Lowest winning score was 102 (Blue Alliance, F2).

[CalTran]

Most likely either inadvertently propping the chute door open or knocking over a stack and causing totes to break the plane of the opponent's field.

[logank013]

Now in Indiana, I don't think we ever had a match that one alliance got 0 points but I remember looking through blue alliance after week 1 and seeing many 0 scores at different regionals. I guess some teams couldn't move totes to the scoring platform or got a few totes on the platform but had fouls too.

[Ari423]

The lowest scoring finals match I saw was at Seneca (MAR) with the finalist alliance scoring 55 points. I have seen my share of 0 point scores, mainly due to fouls, robot malfunctions, and under-practiced drivers.

[BrendanB]

For New England, excluding the district Championship, the lowest score was Rhode Island Finals match 3 with a score of 48 points. The Hartford District had both the highest scores of 207 in Finals 1 (losing score was 174 and was the fourth highest score in Finals) and 210 in Finals 2.

The District Championship had scores of 239 in Finals 1 and 256 in Finals 2.

It shouldn't be a shock that the four high scores were put up with 195 on the alliance. 2067 also was a part of the DCMP high scores and the Hartford Finals score of 174. Both incredible machines.

[Alan Anderson]

Originally Posted by logank013

Now in Indiana, I don't think we ever had a match that one alliance got 0...

There you go, thinking again. :-)

I checked with The Blue Alliance and found one example, Qualification Match 22 at the Indianapolis event. There's video of the match available, if you want to feel depressed about a lack of robot performance.

https://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2015inind_qm22

I thought I saw a playoff match with a red card, which should have given the entire alliance a score of 0. I don't remember the details of how the card was taken back and the score preserved.

[saikiranra]

Here is the lowest final score data from the last fourteen years, ignoring unofficial events and scores equal or less than zero.

2015
Blue:    Avg. 122 Small. 18 2015nytr
Red:     Avg. 149 Small. 38 2015nyli
Winning: Avg. 158 Small. 70 2015wasno

2014
Blue:    Avg. 138 Small. 22 2014micen
Red:     Avg. 155 Small. 38 2014mxmc
Winning: Avg. 175 Small. 52 2014micen

2013
Blue:    Avg. 106 Small. 16 2013txlu
Red:     Avg. 118 Small. 30 2013ista
Winning: Avg. 131 Small. 58 2013ista

2012
Blue:    Avg. 47 Small. 9 2012wca
Red:     Avg. 59 Small. 6 2012gt
Winning: Avg. 64 Small. 30 2012pit

2011
Blue:    Avg. 60 Small. 2 2011li
Red:     Avg. 82 Small. 16 2011sac
Winning: Avg. 93 Small. 30 2011md

2010
Blue:    Avg. 6 Small. 1 2010is
Red:     Avg. 8 Small. 1 2010is
Winning: Avg. 10 Small. 1 2010is

2009
Blue:    Avg. 68 Small. 28 2009la
Red:     Avg. 78 Small. 34 2009hi
Winning: Avg. 84 Small. 48 2009pit

2008
Blue:    Avg. 63 Small. 6 2008is
Red:     Avg. 80 Small. 10 2008is
Winning: Avg. 87 Small. 10 2008is

2007
Blue:    Avg. 38 Small. 2 2007dt
Red:     Avg. 43 Small. 2 2007is
Winning: Avg. 59 Small. 8 2007va

2006
Blue:    Avg. 46 Small. 8 2006ga
Red:     Avg. 54 Small. 9 2006roc
Winning: Avg. 64 Small. 12 2006roc

2005
Blue:    Avg. 36 Small. 3 2005ny
Red:     Avg. 42 Small. 10 2005wat
Winning: Avg. 52 Small. 4 2005dt

2003
Blue:    Avg. 35 Small. 2 2003fl
Red:     Avg. 47 Small. 5 2003ny
Winning: Avg. 61 Small. 7 2003fl

2002
Blue:    Avg. 26 Small. 10 2002ca
Red:     Avg. 30 Small. 10 2002cmp
Winning: Avg. 39 Small. 21 2002mo

I can run more or different calculations if anyone would like.

[carpedav000]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

I thought I saw a playoff match with a red card, which should have given the entire alliance a score of 0. I don't remember the details of how the card was taken back and the score preserved.

Are you talking about the Phyxed Red Card incident?

[logank013]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

There you go, thinking again. :-)

I checked with The Blue Alliance and found one example, Qualification Match 22 at the Indianapolis event. There's video of the match available, if you want to feel depressed about a lack of robot performance.

https://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2015inind_qm22

I thought I saw a playoff match with a red card, which should have given the entire alliance a score of 0. I don't remember the details of how the card was taken back and the score preserved.

Haha. Thanks. And I was dumb too because this stream was only suppose to be finals scores. Haha